Has anybody got a direct substitute for VZ’s “Virginia Flue Cured” or “Parliament” tobacco flavors? Out of the dozens that I’ve tried, these are my favorites…but VZ keeps raising the price to the point that it’s becoming ridiculous.
I’ve read a few threads about VZ’s flavors coming from a company in China that supplies the same re-branded flavors to multiple companies.
Not looking for another “I like this flavor” type of discussion… just wanting to know if anyone has found those same flavors under a different label.
@JoJo is correct from what I have also tried and read. Vz’s flavors come from Russia or bakers flavors. If you don’t mind placing a $500 order you can contact bakers flavors and place an order directly from them. Last I checked it was required to place a larger order to get them to ship it to the US. The SC line is from China but they are supposed to be a break off from bakers flavors. A lot of they’re flavors are almost the same as the Russian flavors. Here is the Russian website.
I checked them out on Bull City, and it does indeed look to be the same exact flavors, at about half the price. I’ll order some of them and check it out.
Aha!! Interesting…and the plot thickens. I always wondered why I never could find any REAL info on these flavors. It doesn’t help that they are just called “Super Concentrates”.
Ok sorry I was wrong. The sc concentrates are not bakers flavors at all. They are Xian Xiangfu Agricultural. I found this other thread and sorry for posting this other forum but it has old information in it.
I believe the flavors that vaping zone sells that are the vzsc line (most expensive) are bakers flavors. The sc line are the ones from china. I have bought from both bakers and vzsc and I know for a fact the strawberry flavors are the same as bakers. Oh yea the chocolate flavors and cream Charlotte are the exact same as bakers.
Only 7 comments and i am now very confused.
Are the Gourmet VZ not more expensive than the SC? Are they from bakers or china? Lol i buy SC from diy-ejuice and can say that their SC strawberry is different from VZ strawberry. I do not have SC strawberry from bullcity tho… Off the SC i have from Diyejuice they were all different (slightly) from the VZ flavors. I think maybe the gourmet could be bakers ie truffle, gourmet cake and what not… Thoughts?
I actually like VZ’s coffee better than anything else I’ve tried so far, but it’s not an SC flavor. Looking at Bull City and ecigexpress, I don’t see any of their generic flavors that are “coffee”. So, any idea where VZ gets their plain-jane coffee flavor?
The vzsc I’m pretty sure are bakers. The sc, the ones that are less expensive, are the ones from china I believe. I have strawberries vzsc and it’s the same as bakers strawberry natural. When I ordered mine from bakers there were 3 or 4 different strawberry flavors. I’m pretty sure the 2 I bought from the vzsc line were comparable. The chocolate truffle, sponge cake, cream Charlotte, and chocolate were the same as bakers.
If that’s the case, holy markup Batman…I have no idea how that place is still in business. That has to be the highest prices for flavors I’ve ever seen.
I started with VZ about 5 years ago, when I first got into DIY… and they were one of the few decent flavor suppliers around. Back then their prices were reasonable, but now they’re outrageous.
I still really like their tobaccos better than most, but IMO the bakery type stuff doesn’t compare with FA, TPA, Capellas, etc. So if these other suppliers are selling the exact same tobacco flavors at half the price, count me in.
That’s what it looks like to me. I guess they raised they’re prices again on the baker flavors when they found out you can no longer have them shipped to the US unless you have a wholesale account and spend at least $500. It’s crazy! If I wanted to order baker flavors I would order them from Germany
Not sure on the Bakers and China flavors, but I don’t think the others are TPA (at least not all of them). I have the Banana Nut Bread in VZ, FA, and TPA…and they are all slightly different. The VZ version isn’t bad, but it’s my least favorite.
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I always wondered why I never could find any REAL info on these flavors. It doesn’t help that they are just called “Super Concentrates”.