Hello. I thought I’d introduce myself. I quit smoking a couple of months ago and took to Vaping as a substitute obviously! I have been searching for the right stuff to fully replace my 50 year pack a day habit. I still am searching… for an authentic cigarette flavor/feel. Juul was/is the best thing I have found so far but I have migrated to refillable pod devices and am going through likely candidates, and finding very little. I was directed to NET. I found it utterly UNlike cigarettes. The stuff I tried - Black Note, Drakes, and Vaporificio Riserva, all had a distinct tobacco flavor, but not burnt tobacco. They all completely lacked the Maillard reaction—the thermal degradation, pyrolytic heat, toast, and melanoidin structural compounds that occur only when organic material is actually subjected to a flame. So anyway I am dabbling in Flavourarts and looking to see if I can create something closer to actual smoking. So far I am not particularly liking sweet, that may change as my palate is after a couple of cigarette free months. For now though I am only looking at tobacco flavors and contemplating DIY. So that’s me. I look forward to reading through posts and learning!
Welcome to ELR @Heve,
I’m not a bacco lover myself but if your looking for good tobacco concentrates I would recommend looking at the Flavorah flavors, which could be what Juul uses (from what I hear)
What you most likely want is INW Dirty Neutral Base (or INW DNB). It’s available at Nomz and DIY eJuice. And FYI there are many flavor profiles that lean away from sweet - like Tea and Coffee. Over time your taste will probably change so don’t count out sweet flavors completely.
Yes, thanks! I actually did sneak/fall into the rabbit hole and found out a bit about the combustion component that seems to be missing in the NET liquids and others and found DNB as one possible solution. Not knowing ANYTHING (!) I have a batch steeping that has (flavourart) Dark Vapure, Oak wood, Bitter Wizard, as well as DNB and TFA Acetyl Pyrazine. I’m sort of wondering if any other ex smokers are finding, like me, that while Vaping replaces the ritual, it seems super hard to replace the taste of burning tobacco? I am very new to this so I apologize if this is a too much repeated quest.
Yes after 43 years smoking cigarettes the first thing I tried was tobacco flavors and didn’t like any, because I quit smoking cold turkey I was determined to make it work and quickly moved on to fruity flavors and never looked back at tobacco myself
35 years! It is hard to pin point flavor in a cigarette I think, but I definitely had preferences that changed over the years. That being said if I ran out and had to bum one I wasn’t particular! May as well show you what I did, this is with the help of AI btw:
I have tried fruit and desert liquids. Can’t seem to migrate my palate to those, yet. My fundamental need at this point is not to smoke ever again. I am warming up to a couple of commercial liquids, sort of, enough to keep me from buying a pack. I have a supply of 5% USA Juul tobacco for emergency situations like when a mate goes outside the pub for a cigarette and I join!
When I first switched from smoke to vape I always kept two mods loaded. One had a non-sweet tobacco flavor with higher nic (9-12 mg/ml freebase). The other was a sweeter fruity/dessert flavor with a lower nic (3mg/ml). I’d try to stick with the sweeter mix - but when I “needed a fix” I’d puff on the higher nic juice. It doesn’t hurt if the non-sweet mix is a bit harsh/non-tasty because it will help your mind adjust to desire the tastier low-nic juice more.