hey first time juice maker.
made a beetle juice @10%
made a hakuna @3% cranberry, 5% fuji, 5% green apple
at shake and vape stage both mixes are extremley light in flavor.
my question is does steeping increase level or intensity of the flavor? or will my mixes remain light in flavor?
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Steeping can increase the flavour with some concentrates - however most fruits are usually pretty much ready in 1- 4 days and don’t change much after that (there are of course exceptions to every rule).
If you are getting light flavour it could be that you are either over flavouring or under flavouring. It is going to depend some on you and some on the flavours you are using.
If that is Flavourart Fuji at 5% you may want to cut it down by half and try it (for my tastes that is a little high). But you will have to play around and find the happy spot for you. Good luck.
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Welcome to the forums.
Someone has misled you. There is no such thing as shake and vape. (Yes, I’m in that camp)
Steeping generally improves a recipe, although some concentrates lose their intensity after steeping. Certain strawberries for example. Fruits don’t require much but will benefit from at least a few days steeping.
Keep in mind that your base ratios are part of the equation. Heavy or max VG
can be detrimental at times.
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Hi and welcome to the forum.
Please have a read through the beginners section of the forum. You’re definitely not the first beginning DIY’er so you’ll find answers to most of your questions there. The search function will also help you a lot in finding answers to your questions.
If you want specific help, please note that it is important to tell us which recipes you’re talking about (copy/paste the url). There are probably dozens of fuji’s, cranberries or green apples around that are all vastly different from each other.
Not only is it important to know which exact flavors/recipes you’re talking about, the percentages used, but also the hardware you’re using is very important, steep time, steep method, nicotine %, etc.
Reading flavor notes from other people, recipe notes and comments (but you’ll learn that in the beginner’s section) is also very important to judge your juice. After gaining (a lot of) experience, you’ll be able to see where a recipe is going before even making it but until then, try and keep things simple and read a lot before jumping into the deep end.
Also try to start with the beginnings first. When you get new flavors, first thing to do is to mix up a few testers of those individual flavors. Look at the flavor pages to get an idea of the median use of a flavor in a mix and as a single flavor recipe. Test at least both % to see how it works for you.
Ideally, you test the whole % range where it works for you because these concentrates can have very different effects at different %'s. Always take notes. That way you’ll always have something you can rely on when you’re going to create mixes of your own and you’ll never be surprised. Single Flavor Tests (you generally see SFT used on this site) also need to be steeped and followed up. Some flavors stay constant, others fade after time and yet others get stronger and stronger over time. If you’re asking whether flavor will increase after a steep, you will never get a definite answer unless you specifically say which flavor you’re talking about.
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Hello and welcome.
I don’t care for any mixes off the shake personally. I’ve gotten to the point I seldom taste even new recipes before 7-10 days. Time and patience are what works best for me.
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Welcome aboard the S.S. Rabbit Hole!
Your question is difficult to answer directly.
As mentioned above, steeping can either bring more intensity or mellow out a flavor, it’s hard to say which direction yours will go, (especially with no reference to your specific flavors and %s). You’ll figure this all out as you go, if you’re reading and taking notes as you test your liquids, both solo and in recipes.
One factor is: What type of gear are you using? MTL, Low wattage, High ohms…or DTL, High wattage, Low ohms? This can change how a recipe works.
It gets a little tricky. At 12 watts, 1.8 ohms, you may need slightly higher total flavor % than if you’re pumping 120 watts through 0.15 ohms allien coils. For higher wattage, more vapor production = more flavor molecules in the vapor, which can provide either more flavor or flavor muting through oversaturation of the olfactory (and some other more elusive factors of chemistry that are beyond my education level, but evident through testing).
Don’t let this get you down!
It all comes together as you make and test more liquids. Reading the flavor notes can be helpful to see how other people’s experiences were noted. But, if you don’t know what kind of gear they used, and their specific flavor perception and preference, it might be misleading.
That’s why there’s a Y in DIY. Reading helps immensly to avoid some major pitfalls and have a starting point, but it comes down to you and your personal experiences.
All that said…Have fun finding out! Steeping is your friend!
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Other factors are involved here, too. The shape and amount of airspace in your tank or RDA can seriously impact flavor regardless of coil and wattage. A smaller chamber where the coils are, generally will provide more flavor, presumably by compressing the vapor before it’s delivered up the chimney. A high wattage RDA or RTA with an airy, voluminous chimney or chamber may be great for massive cloud chucking contests, but deliver diminished flavor.
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The short answer for me at least is yes. Many will say off the shake for fruits is fine, but I find a few days to blend and meld is better.
As mentioned earlier…I too am interested in which flavor houses you are using. If it’s fuji fa and cranberry flv your percents are way to high and would be over flavored. More detail and links would be useful
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thanks for the responses.
I am using capella greenapple
TFA cranberry
FA fuji
capella super sweet used at 0.5%
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Try fuji fa 1.5%, cranberry tpa 2%, green apple cap 3%.
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Come on man. How can you be so sure about that. You really should try one of my SandV. 
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I’ve done S&V for testing purposes long ago. My conclusions said steeping is preferred, regardless of the recipe.
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Nothing but respect for you bro. but I have a recipe (at least the one) that truly is ready right after a halfway Viagra shake. Oops, I meant vigorous.
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And respect to you. Shoot me the recipe and I’ll give it a go.
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