I myself am trying to get off of Nicotine as well, I just don’t want to be addicted to anything. My rosacea flares up and it’s because the nicotine is causing vasoconstriction of the capillaries on my face( Nicotine, spicy food, coffee ) all these are triggers. So one by one I’ve taken steps to decrease my intake in all of them. Unfortunately I love all of these things.
As for the control situation of Nicotine I agree it may come to a time it is too expensive or not available to a everyday consumer ( there will always be ways around this I am sure. )
Diagnosed 15 years ago with COPD and I was prescribed everything that came on the market for stopping smoking. Most of those contained nicotine but some were pills. Not until finding vaping was I successful at quitting. In February 2016 I will be 1 year of no tobacco use and now very little nicotine. I am not concerned at all with any health issues related to JUST nicotine and my Doctor shares my belief on this point.
While I am told the COPD will never go away all I can tell you is I feel much better I am no longer using my nebulizer with albuterol and I rarely have the need to use my rescue inhaler. The dose on my blood pressure meds has been cut in half so far but the doctor has said he will adjust it again in 3 months or if possible take me off of them completely.
I would like to point out that I am also a chain vaper so if anyone would be hurt by vaping more than smoking it should be me and the fact is just the opposite is happening. So I say vape on with all the nic you need to keep you off the tobacco
I once read that the difference between cigars and cigarette smoke was the pH. Cigarettes were acidic and needed longer interaction with soft tissue, which is why they are inhaled. Cigars on the other hand have basic smoke and do not require inhalation. I’m too lazy to go look up the reference, but I believe it was in Cigar magazine.
I can say that a few lung hits of 4mg juice and I am awake for a bit. I’m on some heavy duty drugs and sometimes I just need that nic hit to drag myself out of bed. I can make myself dizzy (and have on accident) chain vaping 1-2ml of 4mg juice in my car. . .Yet, I can smoke a Cuban Churchill or my pipe and not get a head change.
I suppose I am one of the weird ones that vapes 0mg and still smokes tobacco now and again, but never cigarettes. I have always believed this “nicotine is addictive as heroin” is complete BS. I am on transdermal Fentanyl and you can bet your hind-quarters I am physically dependent on something that makes heroin look like a Flintstones vitamin, so I know what that feels like. I have smoked pipes and cigars for 20 years and never felt that way, nor do I feel that way about vaping with nic. NO COMPARISON, AT ALL. They MADE cigarettes addictive IMO.
Nicotine is NOT ‘addictive as heroin’ … but cigarettes can be. Were for me for 40 years. Quitting for me cold turkey was ‘painful’ in MANY ways, so cold turkey (as many times as I tried) never worked. I tried everything else too. Even hypnotism. Horrible addiction… for me. Some people I know can smoke a cig only when they drink and at no other time. I can’t. I won’t. Ever again.
Fentanyl is hugely addictive ! It is so controlled that even when you take a patch off a patient ( gloves on ) you still have to put it in a controlled trash where ppl won’t turn around and dig it out to " suck on it " yes ppl suck on them to get out the last remaining medication. Gross ! But hey I am talking about the same ppl who will stick their hands in a sharps box ( red box full of needles ) to try and fish out a dilaudid syringe. I’m wondering if they think about the possibilities of endless things like AIDS,HIV,Hep B,C being on those same syringes nope they just want their fix.
Yes cigarettes have always to me been more addictive.
Yeah, I kinda derailed the thread on the addiction thing. I am finally coming of fent now. Never, ever take it unless death is your alternative is my advice. I should probably delete all that rambling.
my main point was to comment on the difference between cig and cigar smoke pH…wondering where vaping fits in.
Well I contributing to the derailing also. I have tested some of my juices PH levels and a majority of them fall In the acidity ( but I like a lot of fruits )
As far a fentanyl goes it is mainly used in ICU as an adjust to sedation. Otherwise you hit the nail on the head - Hospice is where it gets most it’s action.
Back on track I see my brothers who dip and use to smoke and one of them now vapes. I wonder if or when they do test on the effects of vaping if they will compare it to all forms of tobacco or just cigarettes.
And I won’t lie if I do vape some juice higher to what I vape I can tell so I guess I misspoke regarding head rush on my earlier post.
I am not sure about a lot of what you guys smoke/vape because some people have told me strange things, so let me say this from natural stand point. If you smoke acidic you will open yourselves up to cancer growing in the body along with other disease. The PH in the blood stream needs to be 7 or better this stops cancer from growing. So having said that I assume since you are talking about hospice you are familiar with this concept and either believe it or you don’t. My thinking is that vaping opens up a whole new avenue to elevating the PH in the system by using herbs that are higher in PH. It is worth a shot that might not have been there before.
I read an newsletter from a doctor who was studying vaping. He claims he went to a vape shop and talked to an owner who explained from start to finish how to make vapor and how to use it. In the newsletter he said he is against smoking because of the carcinogens and addiction. After his study he admitted he believed vaping was safer but that did not change the fact that nicotine was addictive. Again he stated as a doctor he would prefer his patients vape but is still concerned about addiction.
Yeah I told someone on here it was not user friendly for what I make but they said just to write it in the description. IT is a tea vapor. I thought the ULR was for the recipe it is on my recipe page otherwise I do not know I will open it and see. I am not that great on the computer.
User friendliness contrasts with usability in your case. I also did my share of self-extraction (cold-extraction with coffee in my case) but that’s a rare use case that’s best handled in the description. After all you need the space to write your process down.
Sites like ELR and dot1ml are made so people can exchange their recipes with pre-bought flavors or chemical substances that are widely available. You thought outside the box allready when researching PG-based extraction, you just have to do it again. I usually write the process into the flavor description like this.
BTW I read your recipe and I’m wondering which ingreedients you used. What is the amount and the exact combination of the tea you used, and shoud one use fresh, frozen or dried berries for the last step?
