Nicotine Salts?

Hello ,I am new to DIY but not to vaping So I was surprised on the first Nicotine I ordered was 100 mg in PG not going to name where as its well known company and I believe its my sensitivity, I only vape 2 mg I have been vaping since 2009 and I could not vape the first nicotine was very harsh I am thinking I am sensitive to it in some way, BUT I just got the free sample of the Nude Nic salts smooth at 72mg in PG and it is heavenly no taste and I am mixing now with great results and just wanted to share that for anyone else that maybe looking for a similar experience that may be sensitive to nicotine taste :slight_smile:

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It’s nice when you hit on the good stuff for you! :grinning:

Jaunt on over and say “hey!”… they won’t bite!

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I would like to see if any of you have gave the salts a whirl yet? I have been mixing for roughly a few years and knew that NN came out with the salts, just never got interested, now my interest has gotten the best of me.

I have a 120ML bottle of 100mg nicotine salt on the way (hopefully will arrive Friday or Saturday). I’ll post back on this thread to report my thoughts on it. Hoping it’s all that I have read about it. Haven’t been able to get over that first morning stinky and I’m hoping this nicotine salt might help with that.

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Got the nic salt in from LNW and mixed an unflavored batch @ 10mg and another at 20mg. Absolutely no flavor or throat hit from the 10mg test batch and just a little bit of a throat hit and a very slight off chemical taste with the 20mg batch that would not be noticeable with flavoring. I definitely could tell that I was getting more of a nicotine rush with the higher mg batches. Did a 10mg unflavored test batch of regular nicotine that I have from LNW and you can absolutely tell the difference between the nicotine salt ones and the regular nicotine.

Going to order some samples from nude nic and a bottle of nic salt from nic river when I place my next flavoring order to compare some of the other vendors’ offerings. Think I’m sold on these nic salts. They may not be for everyone, but they seem to work well for me and I won’t be purchasing conventional nicotine again. You can order 15ml 70mg or 100mg samples of the nic salts from nude nicotine for $2.75 each here if you want to check the stuff out with out.

https://www.nudenicotine.com/product/nicotine-salt-sample-request/

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The last reply to this topic was a long time ago.
I wanted to revive this topic and say (again) I have done some experiments with Nicotine salts which has a different PH than regular nicotine. I found the Salt juices change color little or none after a long steep, and are not quite as flavorful as the same recipe using regular nicotine.
I was told early on it was the nicotine causing the e-liquid to steep, but i’m now thinking it’s more likely PH or Oxygen causing the reaction and curing effect in my liquid.

I am also really curious about the effect of PH on coil longevity, although I don’t have PH test equipment yet, I am pretty sure it would be possible to create neutral PH e-liquid.

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Ah ha lol I am interested in your results and some of us agreed PH may be a factor. There were however several well respected mixers on that thread who mixed zero mg and felt their mixes were in fact “steeping” so i politely agreed to disagree :wink:

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The Salts do steep, seemingly the same time period as the regular nicotine e-juice, but there is little or no discoloration of the salt e-liquid. And just by taste i found I needed to add about 2% flavor to the salt e-liquid to achieve the same flavor level as the regular nicotine e-liquid. My testing is only at 3.8 month (114 days) steeped salt e-liquid mixed at 16% TF, then boosted to 18% TF both 9mg.

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I realize this is an old thread, but nic salts really worked for me (regarding the morning cig I couldn’t seem to skip). It took two days of “grin and bear it” but I never looked back after that.

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Wasn’t sure which “Salts” thread to post this to, so here goes. Have a friend who buys juice from me regularly, and only vapes MTL at about 16-18mg. He thinks he might want to up the NIC even further, but my experience is, even with the cleanest / clearest (thanks Nude NIC) NIC, once you start pushing above 18mg, you can get some flavor overrun by the NIC. I briefly tried out a few different samples of some Nude NIC Smooth Salts, and for whatever reason, gave me a tickling cough (don’t know what to call it), and this happened across numerous vendors (types) of Salts, numerous strengths (including my 3mg DTL vape sauce), AND (yes there’s more) including a few testers of store bought salt juice.

It became obvious to me, that for me, Salts were a non-starter. I’m considering seeing if my 18mg freebase, MTL vaping friend over to Salts to see if he likes the faster uptake. Anyone hazzard to guess what mg would be a good starting out point.

If Salts hadn’t worked out so poorly for me, I’d have more time with them, and a better mg to mg comparison. I’m back to only using NN NIC, so probably pick up another bottle of their Smooth Salts.

Any Salt heads out there ??

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I would suggest making him 10ml samples with 18mg and 24mg salts both to see how he likes them.

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I prefer liquid nicotine wholesalers for nic salt… cheaper and faster, with the same quality.
I have had no issues running the lnw ns from 3mg up to 55mg for my new to vaping friends… :slight_smile:

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LNW are my go to for salts as well. Excellent cs and prompt answering questions on site.

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I have made a few call ins to them and they are always on the ball!
My reg nicotine usage is down to zero… but for those days the stress just climbs, the ns they have is spot on perfect!

I am starting to see pods offering 6% and 6.5% ns too… not sure if I would take it that high… 5% [53mg, yes, is what that comes to… ] (juul) is more than enough.

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I don’t use pods and don’t mix higher than 10mg these days. I only use salts for a smoother th.

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I go from pods to sub ohming still… I bounce! haha!! :smiley:

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I’m so sick of looking at bubble I’ve been researching old school taller tanks. Thinking the VG v6s clone will be my next buy. Enjoying the dvarw dl clone I recently purchased. Of course it has a bubble on it due to the pei tank the atty came with. Now that I know I’ll use it I’ll spring for the authentic with 6ml glass straight tank.

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Thanks out to the Salty’s.

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Question about NicSalts and vape wattage.

I just made a Nicotine River order and decided to get 150ml of 100mg Smooth NicSalts. After pulling the trigger for that along with a metric crap-ton of miscellaneous flavors (well, to me anyway), I watched the Nicotine River YouTube video on NicSalts. In the video they explain that at high Wattage the molecular bonds between the Acid and Nicotine break. They advised not to useNicSalts for sub-Ohm vaping for that reason. Well darn! I planned to use this for everything. Who has many months of Sub-Ohm NicSalt vaping under their belt that can share their thoughts? Any adverse health effects? Should I head the warning from the video? Before watching the video I thought the reason people said not to sub-Ohm vape with NicSalts was because the salts cause quick Nic absorbtion and Sub-Ohm vapeing delivers a bigger Nic punch to begin with so I thought they just said that as a general warning not to use 42g/ml juice Sub-Ohm or something like that. Now I’m wondering if it will lead to increased acid reflux, lungs melting, kidneys failing, etcetera…

Thoughts welcome from all! Many thanks in advance.

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No experience vaping Nicotine Salts - but a few thoughts. It is not the coil-resistance, it is the coil-wick interface temperature as a result of the load power dissipated in the coil. If the mod can be restricted to lower wattages (by any means), it may not be a problem. (IMO), the sub-ohm resistance warnings assume little/no sense or discretion by users. Nevertheless, Benzene is no joke - and you do not want to be inhaling it in any amounts. It is in cigarette smoke - but the goal would seem to be avoiding this very toxic substance.

Base Nicotine (freed from the mostly ionic bonds of a salt with Benzoic Acid) is absorbed more by the lungs than a vaporized salt - albeit less well tolerated by mucus membranes between mouth and lungs. The more serious concern is likely the potential formation of Benzene at higher temperatures (due to decarboxylation of Benzoic Acid). This paper reports on a 2017 study that attempted to investigate mechanisms of Benzene formation from Nicotine Salts (using a JUUL, and two other devices identified). However, they appear to only note coil-wattages used (as opposed to the more useful measuring of the actual coil-wick interface temperatures that were reached under various test conditions) - leaving readers to guess. Some literature may exist regarding Benzoic Acid thermal decomposition (with more specific temperature ranges provided). Benzoic Acid existing as a salt with Nicotine may have a higher boiling (and decomposition) temperature.

Fig.1: Possible formation of benzene by four mechanisms:

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5342216/bin/pone.0173055.g001.jpg

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