Thanks for info. I just spoke to the supplier and they are sending my replacement 1000ml in 100mg PG. Let’s see how this batch goes. I do agree PG will make it easier to premix the nicotine and to measure. The VG based nicotine is a pain to extract to a syringe at room temp, at freezer temp is almost impossible!!!
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@Computerjohn @woftam I don’t know if there is any clear definitive answer. PG lasts longer than VG, but VG is far thicker so bubbles move much slower in it than PG, so who knows what will lead to longer last NIC. I know Salts will, but freezing in smaller bottles def. will.
Well something went wrong with my batch 1000ml 100mg VG. I received it on December 7, 2017 and opened it for the first time late January and this is what color my nicotine was when I put it in a 60ml bottle. Yes it does have a peppery aftertaste.
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Lmao!! That was the old batch in VG. They are sending new batch in PG. Then I’m going to put it smaller bottles. To reduce exposure and see how that goes. Which is better for long term, Glass vs plastic?? Amber vs Blue?? They send it in 2 500ml white bottles.
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@Computerjohn Sorry, didn’t mean to make it seem as if I was making light of the situation. TTNO (Throw That NIC Out) !!!
OK, that NIC is terriblely NOT good to vape. Ok, we got that covered. I’m not a NIC expert but I have, and go through a LOT of NIC.
Do you mind if I ask where you purchased that from ?
Storage: All I can offer, is what I do, you should decide what’s best for you. I buy large bottles of NIC, and at this point, ONLY from Nude Nicotine and @Nicotine_River. As soon as it hits my house, I break down the entire container up into either 60ml bottles, or 120ml bottles. Even though I use 100%PG NIC, I still shake the HELL out of it before breaking down, want a nice even mix in all bottles. I am also starting to titrate more often to make sure the level is as expected. I only use amber glass bottles with phenolic cone lined caps. What’s a phenolic lined cap ??
Why ?? I’ve never had a leaking/sealing/permeation issue with them. I use goggles/gloves because I’m dealing with 100mg NIC, and break down the entire container into the glass bottles, leaving only a 1/4" air gap remaining, tighten the caps tightly, put date/manufacturer labels on them, and load into quart size ziplock bags, and into the freezer they go. Obviously the size of whatever batch I’m making determines how big of a bottle I open, and at most, I only ever have two opened, 1 small, 1 large. When done, cap tightly back in the freezer.
A bit much ?? Who knows, but with the NIC suppliers I use I’ve never had anything go dark, get peppery on me. I JUST did a TWO YEAR OLD NIC TEST from Nude Nicotine, using their Armor 2 NIC and after 2 years in the freezer, it was about as clean, and clear as on day one.
Hopefully my (and others) NIC advice can help you out. NEVER hurts to be cautious, over prepared when dealing with Nicotine.
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So I get this then?
(12 pack) 4 oz. Amber Boston Round with Black Poly Cap (22/400) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5HU3CP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_VWmHAbMC0Z503
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Though the cobalt blue does look great. Lol
(Pack of 12) 4 oz. Cobalt Blue Boston Round with Black Poly Cone Cap (22/400) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0723C4D5V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_0ZmHAbF6B2SDG
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Any color will be fine, and if you want to get TECHNICAL, the shading of the glass is really only to protect against light, and if your freezer doesn’t have a light, like mine doesn’t have a light, even a clear glass bottle will do. For bottles that are left OUT, exposed to light, it would make much more of a difference. Personally I only use amber for my NIC, and have other colored, or clear glass, and I never get them confused. Since we’re talking about bottles that will live in a freezer, glass, and the sealing caps, will be the most important factors.
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Very true. So those caps listed should be fine correct. Amber for nic sounds about right, proper color for it. 2nd question do the bottles need to get sterilized before using?
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@Computerjohn Wow, you’re putting all the pressure on me now !!!
Kidding. Those caps DO look fine. I’m OLD and FORGETFUL, so for me, the system is NIC is in Amber Glass, Blue is for flavors, Green and Clear I ship out. This way no matter how old I get, hehe, I don’t mix up the toxic amber bottles with anything else. It’s all about what system works for you.
The reason why blocking light, heat, and air are so important is they can and will turn ANY NIC, quality or not, into a brown peppery mess if you let them. Cool, dark, air tight, are all winners for NIC.
For the few times I’ve ventured into a B&M shop to see what’s what, many times I see the staff topping off customers juices with NIC to increase to what they want. These NIC bottles are just left sitting out, light, heat, air, with no concern. My friend let me try a juice he bought from a shop @ 3mg and he wanted 12mg, so they topped it off, and it was very peppery. I don’t think everyone is as concerned about NIC as others.
As far as sterilizing, that is NEVER a bad idea when it’s something you will ingest. Do I BOIL my bottles and caps ?? No, but I do rinse them thoroughly with hot water, and dry before using.
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Thank for the information, I greatly appreciate it. I’m sure other will benefit also. lol. They are topping off nic? 
Sure let’s give the FDA more reasons to regulate. Most B&M shops I have seen can’t even educate customers correctly on how to properly use devices & batteries. Let’s water down the flavor & possibly over nicotine someone, unbelievable!
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Well don’t get me started on that whole mess (yes it IS a hot mess, depending on what shop you go to). I’m in just peeking around to see what they’re pushing on the public and I see people asking for a higher NIC (mostly 3mg on the shelves) and a young, helpful employee runs over with the bottle that just been sitting out for who knows how long, starts to count drops, the phone rings, someone asks her a question, the front door chime goes off, somebody drops something, I have no clue who was counting the drops of NIC at that point.
Don’t tell the FDA, we got enough problems, LOL.
I just don’t like to shop in B&M’s because I’ve seen bad luck and had bad luck with my local shops, maybe just a bad area, don’t know. I DID however, find ONE shop where they really knew they’re stuff, weren’t pushing crap mods on the public, really listened to people, and helped them get what they wanted, not just what the shop had to move off the shelves. The owner is a great guy, helped me out a LOT. AND, turned me onto my FIRST Steam Crave. Can’t thank him enough. If any of our ELR are up in New Jersey off 206 in Eastampton, gotta stop in and say hi.
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You want to hear crazy, I got one of these with some extra remotes …
And I have alerts setup for the mixing cave, AND, the freezer remotes !!!
Yeah, I’m crazy.
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Yeah I can probably count 2 the most that have any clue in my area. I initaily learned from a friend of mine & he also pointed me to look at youtube videos. From there I learned a lot on my own. I can do board level repairs. Building a coil is easy lol…
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Nice!! Though I maybe a bit crazier LOL. I like it, though I’d have to get the Smarthub for that so I can monitor it from anywhere! I’m quite tech savvy, considering my line of work.
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Great sub!
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Just placed ANOTHER Nude Nicotine order, and this arrived JUST about as fast as my previous order, CROSS country at that. In the past NN had some issues with timely shipping, but that has clearly CHANGED.
Order placed Sunday March 3rd @ 20:46.
Order shipped Tuesday March 5th @ 11:58.
Order received Friday March 8th @ 13:44.
Please notes this order was placed LATE Sunday night, and was NOT their FIFO (First In First Out) stock, but liters of NIC, and Argon topped NIC. Standard free shipping. I LOVE it when vendors acknowledge a problem, and actually FIX it.
Nude Nicotine REALLY has improved on what they needed to. TWO orders in a row for me.
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