I live in Canada. In Vancouver B.C you cannot get it. You can buy it in Edmonton. I have considered having a friend ship a bottle to me. That is all i know.
You would still only do the 1 to3% possibly up to 5% in a mix not 20%. PG and PGA are not the same at all. The PGA will thin the juice much more than PG will so 20% PGA is going to be as thin as water. Plus at 20% PGA the throat hit is going to be brutal. Again you can not look at it as totally replacing the volume of the PG in the mix.
I hope that makes sense.
The SC adaptation I made of this based on what I had on hand turned out really good. Still vaping my tester but this is near the top of my list when I get around to making some larger RF SC batches. I have posted it a couple of other times in other threads but here it is again for anyone that might have missed it before:
White mice rice (RFSC)
1.50% Rice Krispy Treat (Real Flavors)
0.90% White Chocolate (Real Flavors)
0.70% Cream (Real Flavors)
0.50% Caramel Original DX (TFA)
0.50% Marshmallow (Real Flavors)
Yes, that absolutely makes sense but I guess I wasnāt clear, sorry. I want to replace the pg with white rum.
When I used the PGA I was referring to the White Rum you want to use. PGA, pure grain alcohol. vodka, etc. All the same when it comes to adding it to e-juice. No matter which one you use you can not replace the PG with the same percentage for the reasons I listed above.
Got it now. I may be treading in deep waters for a newb. Thank you for your patience.
If anyone is interested Iāve noticed that chefs flavours (UK) have got all the real flavors VG concentrates available at Ā£1 for 10ml, Ā£2.50 for 30ml and Ā£8 for 100ml.
Does anyone have any recommendations for the VG flavours. Iāve got yumberry, straw and cream, blackberry, red energy and a couple of others at the moment. I only mixed them up a couple of days ago at 15% in a 75vg 25pg mix but Iām finding them incredibly weak. I think Iād have to use 25% (apart from straw and cream which is stronger) to bring the taste out. Is this normal?
I tried to read most of the comments but thereās just too many in this thread
The vg flav need a long steep time. I would not remix at 25% until they are fiully steeped - I would say a month ish. which is why a lot of us are using the sc now.
Yes, they need a minimum of a month with the VG. And they are significantly weaker as the VG just doesnāt carry the flavor as well. Most of the VG versions I mix in the 15-25% range depending on the flavor. As woftam saidā¦I highly recommend waiting for the SC to be available, they are so much better in the 1-3% usage range.
I was going to order the SC direct last week but thought I should sample the VG ones first. A little annoyed chefs flavours dropped the price a day after I ordered. They also got my order wrong, was slow to despatch and havenāt responded to my email so wonāt be using them again.
Iāll happily order the SC direct from real flavours. Iāve read all the great reviews but was surprised how weak the VG ones are.
Any recommendations for the SC flavours?
Iāve currently got about 130 different flavours from different manufacturers and about 160 bottles of concentrates here. I just donāt seem to be able to stop myself buying more!
Iāll definitely leave them to steep but Iām not expecting the flavour strength to increase much seeing as theyāre single flavour sample mixes. Being mainly fruit ones as well I would have thought the flavour would be more apparent. Especially due to the fact Iām adding in Pg so it should all mix together pretty quick and release the flavour.
When I did a taste test of the concentrate it tastes great but is the same sort of taste I would get from a mixed flavour so based on that they must be very weak anyway. If I put a drop of something like tfa on my tongue it would be overpowering whereas the RF VG is pleasant.
I will make sure to allow a full steep though and see what itās like then. Thanks for the advice
Iād hold fire on the vgā¦Iām pretty certain (99.9%) Chefs are replacing them with the RFSC so that may be why theyāre now reduced
Edit: I see youāve already orderedā¦just ignore me
It just depends on your flavor profile you like. Some of my favorites are Bread Pudding, Vanilla Custard, Yumberry.
3 of my favorites are only available in the VG version right now, Walt said a few weeks out on the SCās. Cinnamon Custard, Shamrock Shake, and Peanut butter cookie. Love them!!
He just released 14 new beta SC flavors, and has them priced at the $3.95 each instead of the usual 6.95 each 30ml. I just got Sc White Chocolate, but havenāt tried it yet. Some people said it was good. And I have Deep Fried Twinkie, Coconut Spiced Rum, Bread Pudding 2, and Butterfinger from the beta SCās on the way.
This is the link to the SC lists if you want to go see average usages, notes, and recipes for any particular flavorings. I havenāt tried a lot yet as Iām using up all my VG flavors first.
Real Flavor Super Concentrates List
EDIT: Ohā¦and Condensed Milk! Itās a staple in my mixing, must have!!!
Condensed milk and cinnamon custard are 2 I was hoping to get. Yumberry tastes great when dripped on finger for a taste test. I think Iāll just mix up a 25% VG of that and have a nice strong one steeping to get a good idea of its flavour.
I think Iāll order some the SC packs sometime over the next week as theyāre good value and use the elr discount code. Then the only real sting is the shipping to the UK, but that canāt be helped and Iām too impatient to wait for UK stock.
You better hope customs donāt grab it if the value is above Ā£25. If I were you I would wait, both chefās flavours and rainbow vapes will have the SC range very soon.
I was the same - bought a load of sc direct when @Walt_RealFlavors kindly had a Black Friday sale
yum, it is very good. I liked it as a standalone and really like it a lot in that white mice rice recipe I posted above by @Pugs1970
From what I can see thereās no vat on these items so no import tax to pay and customs duty applies to over Ā£135 only. I may be wrong but thatās what I can see on hmrc website when finding details on flavourings.
Hereās the link to vat payable on food:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-notice-70114-food/vat-notice-70114-food
On the main tax page it says about the tax payable dependant on type of item (flavourings are zero rated) and no customs duty below Ā£135.
Youāre 100% right with that one. I had to double check the Irish version. Food flavourings are classed a zero here too. That was a fucking shock to the system lol
Thatās great news then. I only checked after you mentioned it as Iād totally forgot about getting stung with import taxes. I didnāt check if extracts came under a separate code to flavourings though. Iāve messaged the tax man for clarification and shall report back as it will be great to be certain that we can order away without any issues.