Good to see there are more Shellback Slush fans in here. It is truly one in it’s kind. I’m now in batch 3 but there’s too much coconut in there. (but it might be a fault in my scale, it’s doing weird stuff sometimes)
Batch 2 was ridiculously close so i just mixed up some more of that with some new experimental percentages and some menthol. I’ll update here when i have some results.
The guys here suggested to add some cantaloupe at .5% and coconut at .5% and that REALLY did the trick and made some nice pairings between the flavors. I see you have Cotton Candy in yours, is that for the sugary after-taste ? Sweetener also did the job. But in a couple of interviews Matthew Topolski (their mixer) stated that “If you need Sweetener, you got the recipe wrong”
It would be really helpful if you can make a batch of my 2nd attempt (http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/2451048/Shellback%20Slush%20(Attempt%202)) to see how you perceive the flavor. I’m pretty close except for the menthol. i’m 99% sure there’s a 0.5% menthol in there, batch 4 will hopefully reveal that.
Also try CAP Sweet Mango instead of TPA Mango. I know what you are saying and that it is really really close but the CAP Sweet Mango is definitely what they are using.
They also produce DVTCH in the same facility so it could still be TPA in Shellback Slush… but that’s a lot of CAP tanks tho. lol. I know … it’s kind of sad and sorry if any of them are reading this. (and IF they do… please help us out lol)
Alright that’s it. Please try and make a sampler of my 2nd batch and let me know what you think of it.
Just tried my Attempt #4 without steeping, and i keep tasting the marshmallow through the mix. I’ve had that with all the mixes. So i will drop the Marshmallow for the next version. It also makes sense because most commercial e-juices shouldn’t have this much ingredients.
The Cantaloupe is still doing it’s work with the layering so i’ll keep that in for Attempt #5. I had too much Coconut Extra in my last version but that was definitely because of my shitty pocket scale, so i’ll keep that in for now and order a new scale. I see that your mix is 50/50, Shellback should be around 73/27.
The menthol is now getting close… but it’s on the verge of ‘too much’ so i will try and increase the Koolada instead. @Experienced mixers here : Is 3% Koolada too much or uncalled for ?
I get the feeling i don’t have the 3 major layers right, or at least the percentages. (Sweet Mango / Papaya / Sweet Tangerine) … the side notes are pretty much in the ballpark. The Papaya is still too strong…even at low percentages. I’ll order some from CAP too.
So far the Attempt #4 is already delicious and the best mix i cooked up in the couple months that i’ve been doing this, including all the ‘top’ recipes on the site.
Too awesome and a common bit of advice we offer Cloners. Vendors have to buy HUGE quantities of flavorings to make 1,000s of bottles of Juice. This often means they stick with one Vendor (Capella?), so you should too. Also it’s true not all Vendors sell huge bulk quantities like this (and bigger!)
Ooops peeking out from the back is Cucumber (?) which might be the elusive secret ingredient. This pic is groundbreaking and undeniable evidence of prior anecdotal stories from Mixers here who already knew …because they’re making Commercial juice. Hey? …but DIY is like Fight Club so we shouldn’t be talking about it
Hey but be careful slippin around in that back alley, you could end up in one of those blue barrels (joke!) lol Oh and the Menthol? likely Koolada …especially if it’s causing problems (trying to use menthol and get the same cooling effect)
It is my belief that this is more common in commercial e-juice than everyone thinks it is.
There have been interactions with the guy behind Charlie Nobel here on ELR before ( he is a member of ELR) and I can guarantee you he uses more than one flavor manufacturer so get the one brand only thought out of your mind.
I tried early on to clone one of his juices and was so far off base it was not funny. I got lucky and he discontinued one of the ones I liked and made the recipe public.
I am not sure this will help out but maybe seeing some of his creations will give you some ideas on what he does.
This one was my favorite juice back when I first started vaping. I still keep a bottle mixed up thanks to him releasing the recipe to the public.
Here is another one
Yet another one
@prettymatthew probably would have given you a tour if you asked him to do so.
EDIT: When I posted this I was in a hurry to get someplace. After re-reading my post I just wanted to say @BoDarc and @TheSoilworker I was in no way trying to put either of you down in anyway. I was only trying to share what I know to be a fact in the case of Charlie Nobel from previous interactions here on ELR with Matthew.
Fact is I once thought he may have used Flavor West exclusively because of an old photo he posted on the internet himself. I posted about that and he personally answered that post. Later via private message with him he also told me I was welcomed to come take a tour of there facility.
I agree with wvsanta here, while I never had that juice in question or any original juices, but enjoy pretty much interviews with that mixer in particular, one thing you can’t hold above his head is being not creative.
Many companies use one brand only, nothing wrong with it, but many others use multiple brands, and we know he does aswell.
Now I don’t know him personally of course, but I also thought he would of been more than happy in giving you some advise here or a tour, if asked.
Trying to clone a juice is one thing and impossible to do 100% but climing over someone’s fence, trying to find “trade secrets” is something I don’t support.
Regardless of these flavors to be part of the juice or not, sorry but I feel it wasn’t your right or business to be there, taking pictures on top and then publishing them. Some things just going too far.
It was in Amsterdam, they make the juices for a couple of vendors. (DVTCH is one of them) didn’t climb any fences or trespass property. It’s just the backside.
The factory was closed or else i’d just ask for a tour.
I use saline in a few things, maybe 3 or 4 flavors at most. It can add a little ‘pop’, or help to accent a flavor. Mainly bakery or peanut butter.
I use 6 flavor houses in the current production lineup. You have to remember we started in 2014, so a lot of the newer flavoring brands either didn’t exist back then, or weren’t able to provide the quantities we needed.
And yes, he should’ve just walked around front and asked for the tour!
@prettymatthew ELR thrives because it is such an Open Source cooperative effort by Members. We all appreciate your contributions even in the face of us trying so hard not to be Customers
Sincerest thanks for your communications here. It elevates you and your company in our esteem. While we DIY folks peck around the edges of your Intellectual Property, we will never forget all the recipes shared for free.
It’s a great big creative World out there, and there is plenty of room for DIY and commercial interests. Your confident optics makes it easy to see your Creatives powers in making the latest e-juice will always be one-step-ahead of us curious cloners.
Openness? Confidence? Not sure how to describe your willingness to share, but it’s a Win Win for Charlie Noble (click this to learn what CN means) Bright …Up Front …where all the good smells come from. Thanks again
Totally agree. Even though i’m trying to clone Shellback Slush. I still buy their juices on a regular basis (Tripoli, Shellback, Blue Bay and Siren Song) to support the company and because they are just so DAMN delicious. They could easily up the price to the range of Twelve Monkey’s and competitors but i know they won’t. It’s just another reason why i still buy their juices.
Glad to help. Commercial manufacturers start as DIYers, even if they don’t like to admit it.
As far as Shellback goes, it’s koolada, no menthol at all. You have to find the fruit mix first, and then make it cold. I’d use WS-23 if I was making it today, though, especially for a salt version. It just wasn’t available in quantity back when we released the original Paradise line.
Pods are nice, I really like the Suorin Air & the Warlock Peas, but salts have brought all of my old gennies back into rotation. Sat22 or a Hellfire Shorty with some 35mg salt is a really nice vape.
i heard someone say that salts gave them the urge to smoke again or something like that , ill have to find what im talking about , i think it was waynes bald side kick
