Salvage my 210 ml of 60\40. Disaster

thankyou heaps for giving it the time thought and love. i now have caramel tfa and bavarian tfa that just arrived on my doorstep. would you do any replacing if you could use them? :yum:

i might just do another thread for it. :mask:

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im onto it amy!!! ill let you know how i get on!!

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Well I’d never of put the cappuccino with this one it seems odd But I am not judging it may be something you love for all I know.

I would say cappuccino Bavarian cream & the caramel make more sense together !

Like a coffee with cream !

Cappuccino ( Aussie Mix no idea the ratio ) start at 1-2% and increase
Bavarian cream TFA 1-2% ( depends on how much cream you like in your coffee )
Caramel TFA - 0.50% - a light little touch ( this is at a very small %s you can bring this Way up if you want more )

Adding a bakery type item takes at least 2 weeks steep. Since you are adding it to the mix, IMHO you need to start over again. You could speed it up with an Ultra Sonic cleaner. But time is the best solution. I seem to have some sort of sensitivity to bakery items, I have to let them sit for a month or more otherwise they all seem to have a weird flavor, but after enough time they are wonderful.

I would suggest it’s time to work on your bakery skills to see how the flavors will interact.

Like to one bottle just add some sweet cream.

Another add bavarine cream.

And so on. That way you can learn how your flavors blend and mix with each other. That way when you build a new recpie you have a better idea of what xyz flavor does when adding it to a fruit like strawberry or other.

@Wallstreet …from one newbie to another. This is the greatest DIY site of all time, so welcome. I can see how you have started off with a handicap using your key flavors not listed in the FlavorBase. Step #1 is optimally building your Flavor Stash because that’s where you get hints on “What can I make”.

Entering them is the trick, especially when it’s something like your Grape. The trick is choose the option (pops up in the menu as you type the flavor) which has the highest number of entries. Example TFA and TPA are the same but one may have twice the entries in the Flavor database leading to more “What Can I make” search results.

Or better example when adding your grape don’t focus on matching your brand (not gonna happen) just go for the highest (most popular!) grape flavor. You could even choose more than one Grape to get more recipe suggestions! On the other hand if you were adding say Caramel it would be more important to match the brand. Realize this resource was built by people just like you, so there are many newb recipes out there which are not good. Keep your recipes private and they won’t pollute someone else’s “What can I make” search.

Most important! Most of the real valuable information is right here in the Forum threads, and the Recipe Zone is just an Archive and jumping off point. Most recipes fail because of too high percentages, so always start low and work up, and most importantly that can take months if say you were into Custards. Find some easy “Shake n Vapes” to get you through while your deepest desire steeps and you perfect it.

The recipe side has powerful knowledge but read it with a skeptical filter. When looking at a recipe click individual flavors and read the info under the single flavor link “Notes” …also realizing some of those display because a newb has made their tasting “Notes” Public in their personal stash …it can get random. That can work for you in the case of GrapeX. Look at all the Grape recipes and see if something sounds tasty and take a peek at those grape single flavor “Notes”.

Keyword “filter”. There’s no substitute for lots of reading here and lots of filtering, I just thought it might help to know where all that randomness comes from. There is rarely clearcut direction using this tool …it’s more like a trail of breadcrumbs. Lastly, taste is so subjective! Someone might rave about their recipe …doesn’t mean you will like it. Try to focus on Premium eJuice flavor profiles you like and work on a couple. It’s all the info you get in the middle (!) that will propel your successful DIY.

Oh and on “Salvaging”. This is a cost basis thing. Never pour it out, just set it aside with a dated label as the flavor can change over time and YOU need that data. Taste it weekly and set it aside. It only cost a 1$ and time is money, so just start fresh. Your success will be in the ability to make your recipe again and again, worst thing is making a kick@ss juice from a salvaged juice you cannot recreate. Accuracy is everything and slight changes in flavor percentages is the key to repeat success


In the recipe side of ELR, click ‘USER’ in the tool bar (above right), click ‘My Flavor Stash’, and enter all of you flavors, and be certain to enter them correctly [the ones that you can] [Like Sweet Cream from Flavor West would be “Sweet Cream (FW)” or “Hazlenut (TPA)” etc. Once each of your flavors have been entered into your “My Flavor Stash”, you can click on each flavor, a new page will open with options for a ton of info on that flavor. Repeat with each flavor.
It takes time, but you will be rewarded with great knowledge.
And welcome, eh?


Wow 210 ml Disaster…slow down cray cray ! You gotta crawl before you can walk :wink: Here’s the skinny on DIY even pros make mistakes yet we all learn from them 1st lesson don’t make Mad Scientist free will juices they are a train wreck waiting to happen. Lesson 2 make SMALL 10 ml batches even 5 ml batches until you have a SOLID recipe that way you don’t waste you resources and time :smile:

Now that you’ve been mentally spanked Let’s Do This !!!

You have a grape base…not guna end the world we can shape the mix up…You can do a fruity mix with cream !

This is only a 10 ml batch so you can try and see if you can mix additional flavors. I have no way of working the grape in as a percentage so it is unknown my guess is around 2-3%

I put the grape at 3% but this doesn’t mean to add more it’s just there to hold the place of the pg

fruity cream

Ingredient %
Bavarian Cream (TPA) 1
Blueberry Extra (TPA) 4.5
Grape Juice TFA 3
Peaches and Cream (TPA) 3
Strawberry (Ripe) (TPA) 2

Flavor total: 13.5%

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I hope you can salvage your Grape bases !

Here is some really good reading material don’t take this the wrong way but it’s here for a reason a lot of newbies ask a lot of the same questions so we’ve complied some great DIY for newbie threads take advantage there’s some great info in these threads that will really help you and keep you from making EPIC mistakes ! Be safe !

Here’s simple easy recipes with only a few flavors per recipe !

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thanks alot @BoDarc . everyone is so helpful here. im just learning on how to work the full site. it takes me a little while but ill get there. how do i create a flavor stash @BoDarc??

Ozo gave a good rundown here.


Im all over it thanks big benny!! thanks. i love this flavor stash feature!!! it ROCKS!

Glad you’re enjoying it. Also, from the main recipe site there is a Resources dropdown. On it you will find the Guide. It’s a basic users guide for the recipe site. Some good basic info to get you started.

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oh ok. oh the flavor stash feature is not as smooth as i thought it would be . i put in glazed doughnuts and bananas forster . then i tried peaches n cream and bavarian cream … but no corresponding recipes. mmm is it me or theses are not flavors within the directory recipe database?

@Wallstreet, I warned ya mate :wink: For “Glazed Doughnuts” just type “doughnuts” the menu that pops up will have every doughnut and a number next to it that shows how many recipes it is in. Obviously don’t pick Chocolate doughnut … you should be able to find your Glazed variety.

This is how it works. When someone creates a recipe and lists a flavor it becomes one of those line items that pops you you enter your in your Flavor Stash. SO it gets crazy. Misspellings etc become items in that menu. Try typing donuts. The FlavorBase is a culmination of all our success and all our fails …such is Life …and SQL.

Better example; you could actually list your precise Grape with brand name while in the “Create Recipe” tool and the next person who was doing exactly what you are learning now would actually get a result …it would just have a “1” next to it …You!

You could make “Notes” about your Grape brand …like “tastes like grape jelly” or “Strong! Use at < 1%” …whatever you discover you can contribute and “Vape it forward” as they say on ELR. That’s how all this came to be!

[chuckling] It’s a database though so spelling is important …search for banana foster Oh look 44 flavors Wait? …search for “Bananas Foster” (added an “s”) huh only 24 flavors? These can work for you and against you …like “donut”.

Add several "Grape"s just so you can get them to auto-pop results in “What Can I make” Search for Grape and Grapes. Look to the right and see how many recipes are using them. By reading those recipes you can learn what other people have paired with grape, so next click the individual Grape flavor in the recipe to read more about that brand of Grape under its “Notes”. Someone might state “I’ve tried all the Grapes and this is the best one hands down!” you might want to put that on your next order!

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thanks your royal highness @Amy2. overnigiht i thinned it down with some kewlies (arctic tobacco) and it is really tasteless still… so yeah im gonna do your crazy method. im sorry i didnt get around to our other experiment. but i promise you feedback on this… this should be a shake and bake yeah???ooops i mean a shake and vape lol. my bad!!!

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Hope it works for ya !

@Amy2 crikey!!! because i added menthol to it last night it tastes EEEWWWWWW! :blush: its all a learning process! mint and cream not really for the pallet unless dont right ofcourse. never make that mistake again. sorry i couldnt respond with yay, brilliant fabulous so excited!!

Oh No ! Just curious does a menthol grape sound good to you ?

I don’t believe that was my suggestion. I said maybe you could use your peaches & cream with some SB ,BB extra and some Bavarian cream to make a fruity cream mix…that’s where I woulda headed with it.

Now I do have a recipe that is a grapeberry ice cream…hmm I wonder if you could rescue it one more time…Got no idea what yor percentages are in whatever your batch size is but here’s a grape berry recipe I like of mine.

grapeberry ice cream

Ingredient %
Blue Ice (FW) 2
Blueberry (FW) 1.26
Grape (FW) 4
Grape Juice (TPA) 4
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (FW) 2.76

Flavor total: 14.01%

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You could use BB extra in place of the two other BB’s in the mix.

im onto it!

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