I picked up an Avid Artisan Daudalus coil spinner whosit watisit. It spins up some really nice simple Claptons. Maybe it’s all in my head but I like them better than what I can buy pre spun on a spool. There is something just groove about being able to say I spun it up myself too. Again all in the head.
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Sounds dumb, but most of time time I just use a 22g or 24g kanthol. I’ve made claptons using 26g with 32g. It was pretty fun to make them.
I’ve never used prebuilt coils. I’d recommend starting with a 24g kanthol or SS round 7 wrap. Easy and then experiment with claptons.
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It might be – tho pride making things better is an entirely justified thing. I might be getting a spinner or something eventually, got lots of pre-spun to go thru right now. I tried to make my own first and. . .my fingers can’t do that by hand, stupid stubby things. I do all right wrapping by hand if I want to, but man it’s better to use tools.
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I’ve checked the spinners out! I burnt my thumb while spinning my own using a drill. Lol
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Ya, that thing is da-bomb! Takes a little puttizen around to get the tension just right for each gauge of wire used for wrapping but once that’s in place it does a real fine job. Copy @Ailith
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Thanks for your help with this, extremely excited about buying this now - not so excited about countless hours of frustration with getting the coils right so I think I’ll start with premade coils
The frustration in getting things right is putting them on the mod – prebuilts require just as much time and effort as the ones you wrap yourself to get our hotspots, get inner to outer heating and get all coils firing at the same damn speed (I did a quad build once…that was dumb for a newbie :P) . If not moreso after a couple hours of practice.
Mind, I started with Demon Killer prebuilts myself. either way works in the end YMMV and WFYB and all that.
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How did you learn to build RBAs correctly? Would YouTube be a good place to start or is there some hidden ‘bible’ of knowledge I’m unaware of?
I fucked up a lot. Just put “Tsunami build” in YT and do that for every atty you get. That said, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87o_I_CB4iY&t=2s is the key to wicking for me.Massive improvement after I started doing this on all my builds. For my cotton pads I just cut them into 4ths and it’s perfect, plus you can use each 4th for two coils. Seriously, why the hell do people waste so much cotton by using a whole strip on every coil and throwing more than half away?
I am somewhat surprised by some of the responses in this thread, the flavor Im getting from my tfv8 with q4 coils is fantastic. And I have several Rdas Rtas and Rdtas. I havent tried the rba section on the tfv8 yet because my q4 coil that came with the tank has lasted forever, Of course I have cleaned it a few times but im going over 1 month of time on this q4 coil with great flavor? Maybe I got lucky?
@Myute you dont have to start off building complex coils. Start by building a plain single wire coil. Its so easy and even hard to mess this up. All you need is some kanthal and something small and round like a drill bit to wrap the wire around. Once you have that down on move onto a more complex build, 2 wire twisted, then move onto making single core claptons. Once you are making single core claptons sky is the limit and you can advance into more difficult coil builds. Dont become intimidated, building a basic coil is extremely easy, and yes you can get great flavor from basic single core coil build. You dont need a big fancy coil to get great flavor and vapor.
Ps buy a cheap ohm meter. ( they can be had for next to nothing)
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Dont forget, Airflow, and coil positioning as it pertains to the airflow is very important for your flavor production as well. I would highly suggest building your own coils, you will save lots of money and have the satisfaction of knowing what materials were used to make the coil. I have also found some tanks/rbas like some builds better than other. Dont think for a second you cant get amazing flavor from the most basic single coil build. Yes you can increase flavor with more advanced coils, but if you are positioning everything correctly the basic builds wont disappoint you. Im still a big fan of regular claptons. Bigger advanced coils also need more power to fire properly and ramp up time can be slower. I just want you to be fully aware of your options, every new person comes in thinking the need dual aliens that ohm out at .1 ohms because they see other people doing it. Start with the basics, and once you have a good understanding of the basics then move onto advanced coils builds etc… Just my 2 cents hope it helps you some.
One last thing, youtube is your friend! look up “basic coil build”. There are so many resources on youtube that explain everything very well. Start from the ground up and you will have a firm foundation to stand on in your vaping journy!
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I loved my TFV8 Big Baby Beast – right up until I tried to use the RBA. The prebuilts aren’t bad, but the price of prebuilds is way too high, and throwing that much stuff away way too wasteful for me. You’re basically throwing a deck away every couple weeks. All because it needs to be re-wicked. I haven’t had a single coil I built get used up yet, cause you can rewick, and also cause I now has a tiny box of used but totally fine coils as I keep swapping and testing new things. >.>
It’s less that the TFV8 is bad, and more that rebuildables are so much cheaper that even if a prebuilt delivered the same or nearly the same experience, it isn’t worth it. I can get a new RDA for the cost of a pack of coils if I don’t insist on something newly released.
Plus building yourself is fun.
And mostly – I think my entire view of RBAs rather than RTAs or RDAs is tainted by my experience with the TFV8 (so many issues it was unusable) or the TFV12 and TFV12-T (the former I still use, the latter deformed and striped when I was unscrewing it so I threw it away). Because even the TFV12 dual-coil setup, I had to replace the grubs with some from another deck because theirs were giving me shorts. Just, the hell man.
And after picking up a non-Smok mod now, I gotta say – I think Smok just isn’t a very good manufacturer. They’re stuff is fine if you buy their coils, but it’s just kinda “meh” overall.
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Im a little confused. The TFV8 has an Rba section that you can purchase seperatly. “You’re basically throwing a deck away every couple weeks. All because it needs to be re-wicked.”? I have never thrown an RBA section away lol. That is the case with any rebuildable RBA RTA RDTA RDA. Were you rebuilding the stock coils or did you buy the rba section for it? If you put the RBA section into the TFV8 is is an RTA at that point. My experience with these tank has been very different from yours. I have been rebuilding for about 3 years tho so I have a pretty good Idea how to get my atomizers to work the way I want them to.
No, prebuilt coils involve as much metal as a decks. I’m saying prebuilt coils are wasteful.
As for the TFV8s RBA, the thing flat out did not work, google it, loads of people had problems. You didn’t? Fine mate, enjoy, I don’t begrudge you liking the thing, but don’t be obtuse.
I’m dropping this conversation before I get pissy.
No need to get upset. Obtuse? I am afraid I dont understand what you think Im being obtuse about? I simply explained my experience. Please tell me how thats being obtuse to you? It appears you are the one who had a bad experience and so believe everyone else should too. It is obvious you are butt hurt about the subject of the TFV8. That not my problem its your problem.
When I started vaping there werent rebuildable tanks, just Rdas I wast going to spend 4 bucks every week for a new coil so I rebuilt the stock coils to my tanks. I still have my old protanks with tiny micro coils that I would rebuild and rewick. Where there is a will there is away. I have always enjoyed problem solving, if there is a problem with a tank I can almost always find a way to remedy or fix the problem. I understand most people live in a microwave society and dont want to take time to understand how things work and how to fix them. But if you do there is almost always a way to fix any problem with any vaping device or atomizer.
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Thanks for all your help people, especially that wicking technique, I’ll be sure to use that. My main reason for wanting to switch is because the TFV8 coils seem to clog up so easily and I get flavourless hits (not dry hits) with it very quickly even with higher pg liquids so hopefully an RDA will solve this problem
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I havnt read all the responses. But yes in general it can be better or atleast easier to dial in
If you got the money I would recommend a goon 24mm. I love them.
I would also recomend the tobeco clone of the velocity v2.
I don’t recomend the taumani geekvape one if you are not used to bottom airflow because of the over dripping issue.
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One thing to remember when rebuilding, wicking is one very important aspect. A lot of people have problems rebuilding because they are not getting their atomizer wicked properly. I just got one of my coworkers into rebuilding, he was having all kinds of problems and was getting turned off of Rbas etc. I had him bring me his tank and his cotton was packed way to tight in the coils. After I rebuilt it for him and he stood there and watched he learned what he was doing wrong and has since been getting much better results. There is a happy medium between too tight and too loose. If it is too tight or too loose it will not work correctly. This applies to any rebuildable.
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Lots of good advice already. I would definitely recommend starting with a velocity style deck for ease of building and as said; coil position and air flow are key to great flavor. Not that I would recommend a goon low pro for a beginner but it by far is in my top 3 for flavor. The shorter the Barrell the closer you are to the actual coils which ups the bar. Bottom airflow provides a better/flavorful vape also. But in the end almost any good rda will outperform any subohm tank.I would stay away from an rtda at first or an rda with a small deck width. Keep it simple at first.
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