The encouragement that beginners need, opposed to dictating what they do

[TorturedZen]

@Mizzz_Z_Hobbit

It might help to rephrase the problem to newer people. Rather than telling them “You’re wrong and your bottle is wrong, I’m right and our data base is right!” Maybe it will be more constructive to frame this as an issue of aliases or “also known as” . Let them know that many of the flavors have multiple, legitimate “right” names but for the sake of keeping order in the data base, we’re trying to unify one flavor under the most commonly used name.

Been there, done that. Linked the Guide for them. Explained til blue in the face. Not to sound brash but your advice won’t always work.

[Mizzz_Z_Hobbit]

@TorturedZen

your advice won’t always work.

No, it won’t always work but “please help us streamline the data base” is going to work a lot more often than “You’re doing it wrong! Change it!”

[TorturedZen]

Wow. Where did I say “You’re doing it wrong! Change it!” anywhere in this thread?? I used the word ‘wrong’ in the context of a mislabeled bottle, so don’t get this twisted and please don’t put words in my mouth.

[Mizzz_Z_Hobbit]

You don’t need to be so defensive about it, I was only illustrating the contrast of what might get better results.

[Pro_Vapes]

@TorturedZen

Wow. Where did I say “You’re doing it wrong! Change it!”

@TorturedZen

please don’t put words in my mouth.

@Mizzz_Z_Hobbit

You don’t need to be so defensive about it,

I’d be defensive too. Trying to help shouldn’t be an issue.

We’re just beating a dead horse as the OP has left and isn’t responding at all… Now is a good time to let that go and focus on the real issue… The flavors database…

[Pro_Vapes]

Just for reference when helping members learning to use or improperly using the database…

Recipe Formatting and It's Importance

I’m hoping to bring awareness to proper formatting when posting the ingredient in a recipe. I think the format of a recipe is very important and it also get more results when searching ingredients, more notes and more recipes that used that particular ingredient. It also keep your stash neat and orderly. Sometime when I find a recipe that looks interesting and I want to make, but the format of the ingredient are not detailed enough or I’m not sure what’s in it. Most people use a common format, …

[Pro_Vapes]

It really works… A users testimonial…

What is you favorite cheesecake flavoring?

Well some how I ended up with 2x30mil lorann cheesecake from my last flavour purchases. Then I added it to my stash as cheescake lorann. And yes I wasn’t the only one. I was wondering why only a couple people use this lol. Then I found this thread and realized my mistake. Even after typing only Cheesecake there was no lorann option. It was only after I fully typed in the proper names and added them. I rechecked the ADD flavour and now it was there with all 5659 users. Too funny I’ll start testin…

[Pro_Vapes]

LoriAnne Lemonade

Not sure if it’s been covered with the deleted posts above, but your difficulty finding the flavor in the database is due to not having the name correct. The company is LorAnn In the database, it’s abbreviated LA in recipes, but to add a flavor, you can type the flavor, and then the manufacturer (or the first couple of letters of each… Eg: lemo lor) and you should have much higher chances of success! Hope this helps

[atssec97]

That’s friggin amazing!! Why is this so hard for folks to grasp? Good catch @Pro_Vapes

[Benoz]

I did a video tutorial on a fb page i am in on how to add flavours i suggested picking the one with the most recipes this is usually a pretty good hack then i noticed this

Flavor details: Vanilla Shisha (Inawera) - e-liquid-recipes.com

Flavor details: Shisha Vanilla (INW) - e-liquid-recipes.com

Correct me if i am wrong but the second one with less recipes is the correct one

[atssec97]

This is a perfect example of just one of the multitude in the database. Many of the Shisha’s are this way from Inawera. And yet the other MFR’s with Shisha’s will be listed correctly! I have come across this with many of the flavors in the DB. I honestly think it’s getting worse with the addition of all the smaller companies entering the concentrate market.
What makes me sad about this is the fact that if you want to capitalize on most of the features of ELR you must also use the incorrect one!!

[worm1]

?No. At least all my Inaweras i have entered as (Inawera) not (INW) and they have the older notes from respected mixers.

[eStorm]

@worm1

At least all my Inaweras i have entered as (Inawera) not (INW)

And that’s cool, respected mixers or not, the flavor itself is still called shisha vanilla and not vanilla shisha. Guess we spelled the company correctly at least

[worm1]

I didnt even consider how the “shisha” was listed and commented solely for how the Inawera is listed. If u look the listings are commonly done w/ adjectives second. If u think about it that categorizes it easier. For example if u want to see all the vanillas, search vanilla and brings up your list of different ones. There is some order to this madness,usually, sometimes, maybe, I think.

[worm1]

Found exception already Shisha Orange (Inawera)

[atssec97]

@worm1

There is some order to this madness,usually, sometimes, maybe, I think.

I think there may be used to be some order to this! I think, maybe, usually, hell IDK! Lmao!

[worm1]

My theory there would be an improper merge, choosing Shisha orange vs. orange shisha as the other listings would suggest format to be.

[SessionDrummer]

I’ve been reading this one from the OP, and you guys are bringing up some really good stuff here. I’m sure I made my fair share of mistakes early on, but I was lucky to have made some friends who would PM me and let me know, hehe.

I completely see BOTH sides of the argument here, and an indeed aware of the damage to a large database that can occur with “differing” entries. Even to this day, sometimes when mixing up something new, with maybe a not so mainstream flavor, it can be “challenging” to find the right one. Keep this one going guys, as it’s a shame that the OP left ?? He could have actually helped out a lot here, from a newer user’s perspective, etc.

[SessionDrummer]

@Donehere

I posted the two best I mixed so far, and accidentally hit the wrong brand of one flavor, and oh I was belittled and just talked to like I was an idiot from a senior mixer. I hope that not everyone is going to be so brash when it comes to newcomers on the recipe feeds.

Re-reading the OP, and having come from ANOTHER 3 letter forum, and even yet another 6 letter site, I found the people on ELR to be some of the MOST welcoming people I ever had the pleasure to spend time with. @daath hasn’t kicked me out yet, so I guess I’m safe, … for now …

[Laura5]

Honestly, I didn’t really explore the forums once I found this place. I am very inactive on the other three letter site, not my cup of tea. Not even a member on any others. Love this vape crew!