What is better?
Would flavour % be the same? Or would you go less with kiwi double?
Kiwi (TPA), avg in mixing: 4.8% (median 4%)
Kiwi Double (TPA), avg in mixing: 4.7% (median 4%)
The āDoubleā is a bit misleading. Itās just two different Kiwi-flavorsā¦
Personally I would go a little lower on % with both, but thatās just me ;D
Which one do you like the best. Iām loving FA kiwi an am thinking I was to add 1.5-2.5 % of another kiwi to just blow my mind. FA is almost there, it just needs a push.
I donāt actually remember any of them very well - I donāt have either any longer. I really like Kiwi (FA) too, maybe try the Kiwi (Double) (TPA) at like 1% or 2% to add to FA?
Thanks 
Oh! Something learnt today! 
I assumed ādoubleā would mean double concentrationā¦ Good to know!
Well, I ignored some of the bad reviews and took the plunge. A vaper on POV who loves one of my favourites also likes Cubano so I thought our tastes would be similar; he mixes cubano at 12%.with a drop of Vape Wizard and lets it steep for 2 weeksā¦
Just mixed up some at 9% and canāt detect any flavour other than ash. Maybe it does change after steeping and perhaps Vape Wizard is the magic catalyst.
Any thoughts from those who like Cubano would be appreciated!
CG
Oh yes, itāll change in about a months worth of steeping. 
Iāve used the TFA Cubano kinda like an tobacco absolute; when I want ashā¦there it is! It has its uses, but Iāve found other flavors that carry a cigar flavor much better than the Cubano. Still in all, I still use it. 
I rarely go over 2% with the TFA Cubano now.
Thanks - good to know that some steeping will develop it and that itās really a component rather than a stand-aloneā¦
I would say there are no bad tobacco flavors, just bad tobacco mixersā¦but, thatās a lie! 
Every day, it seems like I discover something new about the tobacco flavorings in my stash! And Iām ordering new tobacco flavors all the time because I love the diversity. 
There have been some tobacco flavorings which I have just poured down the drain 'cause they were just awful! cough DELOSI cough
But for the most part, just about every tobacco in my stash has a useful percentageā¦ 
The fun part is finding that percentage!
Their coconut and watermelon are really good. Maybe they do fruit better than tobacco.
Howād that Cubano mix turn out?
Iāve been watching your latest mixes pop up on my notification listā¦youāre staying busy!
Well, Iāve consigned it into the āDud Concentrateā bin along with, possibly, Inawera Don Hill.
However, Iāve just mixed up some of Bestcigliquidās concentrates (only recently available from them) and Iāve been blown away by the intensity and completeness of flavour - will do a review soon although I donāt have the flavour vocabulary. Black Mamba is like smoking a sweet cigar and Mumbo Jumbo is amazing; intensely spicey, dark with black fruit flavours and a strong aniseed and clove I think. My first experience with NET concentrates as far as I know.
I wonder if BCL might become very popular hereā¦
Hope allās well with you.
Cheers
CG
Those two flavors are a bit hard to find a niche in the stash. I remember needing to liven the Don Hill up a tad with a Virginia tobacco; havenāt mix with the DH in a whileā¦need to revisit that tobacco and see if itās really something want to keep in my stash.
BCL is UK based right? And yourself?
Interesting you mention Virginia with Don Hill as Iāve made a note to do that next time, only because I must have read that on this forum or on a similar one - maybe one of your posts.
BLC is is UK based and Iād never tried their ready mixed stuff before but but so far these NET concentrates are a knock-out; the room smells like Iāve been smoking a heavy British pipe tobacco.
Iām UK based - live in the Greenwich area of London. Are you over here too? I had an idea that you were but I might be wrong.
CG
Iām across the pond, my friend; North Carolina.
I would love to try some of those BCL liquids! They all sound great and youāre lucky to be able to get your hands on them at a great price. Theyād cost me about $16.70 per 30ml + shipping. 
The NET aspect of the liquids is awesome; makes me curious how they produce their tobacco flavors. I wonder if they make their own NET or purchase flavors, such as Hangsenās essence tobaccos and go from there? Whatever the process, youāre enjoying it and thatās the important thing!
Yeah, Iāve located a couple of tobacco flavors that will serve to brighten up a dull one, such as the INW Don Hill. One of which is Seedmanās Virginia Fire Cured tobacco casing. It has a bit of a bright but satisfying tobacco flavor with a slight herbal or floral note. The other one is a Tobacco Absolute; Nicotiana Rustica, from a vendor in Washington State called Samara Botane. At the proper percentage, the Rustica provides a super nice light and bright tobacco lift to any mix without destroying the primary tobacco in the mix.
Ah, been down from Toronto to NY and on to Pennsylvania but never got further south to N. Carolina although Iāve travelled a bit in the states, most recently with my father who lives in Vancouver (ex-Glaswegian) - road trip through Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah. It was in Vancouver last October that I started vaping and my first ejuice was Flavour Crafters Coumarin Pipe and Iāve still got a bottle - lovely stuff but man, Vancouver is expensive (actual pipe tobacco off the scale); everything seems so much more reasonably priced across the border in the States. Vape stuff seems a lot cheaper there although Iāve just found a UK site that does Seedmanās Fire Cured.
You must have some great NET suppliers over there?
There are quite a few; my favorite:
http://www.naturally-extracted-tobacco.com/mobile/default.aspx
I have about 5 of the Seedmanās tobacco flavors going through testing after some steep time: Commercial, Captain Black, Cognac, Virginia Fire Cured and English.
Iām in the process of sticking some tasting notes on the SM flavors in my stash; the notes others have left are a bit anemic.
Seems to me you have no trouble with the āflavour vocabularyā @Cloud_Gerbil.
These Bestcigliquid concentrates look interesting, & your comment about intensity & completeness of flavour really grabbed my attention ā¦particularly the completeness bit. Ive started messing with some tobacco flavours over the last couple of months & Iāve found they ALL lack body, even the SC flavours Iāve tried. I can achieve the intensity ok, but the flavours are thin - lacking body, depth & solidity. I figured I had to ad other flavours to get the depth ā¦but thats a ācatch-22ā, because Iāve wanted to ad tobacco to get depth in my other flavours . All that said, Iām yet to try a N E T - thats probably where my answer lies. So, Iāll look forward to your reviews!
Iām presuming youve tried the Black Mambaā¦ how does it compare the TPA Cubano?