That’s because the flavor can be used so many ways. I get a whipedcream/ sweet cream. Cross.
I’m not a flavor expert but I play one on TV.
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ya know, i am going to try it in my coffee’s
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Thanks lanc13. No, my life is still pretty much shit, but what you gonna do? At least I still have a roof over my head, for the time being anyway.
Yeah, I’m still struggling with banana. My recipe isn’t great, and I’ve sort of lost interest to be honest. The EM did round out the edges, but it’s still not great. Perhaps I should do what commercial companies do and just load it up with sweetener, lol. Unfortunately I don’t like mixes that are too sweet. Oh well, worse things happen at sea. Let me know if you come up with something.
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" adding milks to cereals." Hadn’t thought of that. Thanks. You’re a mine of useful information.
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Not only Red Date, but yes I got the both those two for sweeteners:
But the Date I got as one part of a light, sweet nutty mix I thought would be good - after glancing at the latest posts list and seeing @jinx_d had some, iunno some Butter Pecan flavour or juice he was testing which made me think of Butter Macadamia, which also joined-up with a comvo about Tripoli I had that night with @HVPGH, which finally made me consider that juice would still be good (better even) without the tobacco - yah… that has dates in it or was it fig?
I reckon that combination will be different from most juices and the flavours are well grouped enough to be awesome 
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Try them in warm milk: I’ve been doing that with all my flavours just to get a feel for 'em.
There’s zero steep time in real milk and a lot less messing around than mixing juice since you’re only adding a few drops to get an idea how they taste.
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I’ve just mixed that up though can’t even have a go fresh until I’ve changed cotton to get rid of that fn blueberry - not that it’s bad, it just overtakes the flavour completely and reminds me so much of Jam Monster Blueberry it’s gotta be changed while the butter/macadamia/date mix is taking a warm bath…
As for the Red Date, though I haven’t tasted it yet, when I cracked the lid and sniffed it the smell was spot on 
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It’s even as dark coloured as dates…
I’m finding the best way to smell these flavours seems to smear some on my skin and rub it in before smelling them: nnot only are you spreading the liquid over a larger area than just sniffing the bottle tip, your skin actually warms the flavouring which allows your nose to pickup more notes from the body temperature liquid as it’s coming off your skin…
And it smells pretty fruity now I’m doing that: sweet, dark and fruity like fruitloaf but obviously without any cake or flavour.
The Butter Base though - which isn’t a sweetener but since I’m here anyway: that’s cat piss yellow and smells, better than catpiss but it’s hardly making me drool…
Maybe a rub-into-skin smelling will help with that…
Nope: still smells just whatever: smells fine, but more like sweet, whipped butter if anything and nothing to be doin’ a jig over.
The Red Date smells excellent though
EDIT: Can’t tell you how well it sweetens or tastes until I’ve vaped the sucker and trying it fresh just then well, I can taste it just but it’s clearly and sadly going to need some steepage.
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How does the warm milk affect your coils?
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Ba-dah boom!! 
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