Using Water and Vodka as a base (Instead of PG)

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I love you.

I thought sharing this could help people who have the vape burning their lungs to be able to vape again by sharing this.

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Great you made a thread ! Fantastic and now easily accessible to those inquiring minds.

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Jimmy. It says antifreeze on the bottle. Itā€™s PG with pink food coloring and you know we can still love each other.

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Thereā€™s no nicotine in that camper stuffā€¦ at least I dont think there is?

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A little reading on PG and PEG and my 2 cents

PG = propylene-glycol when used as an antifreeze in Marine and RVs itā€™s colored PINK to show itā€™s FOOD safe and can be used in drinking water lines to protect against freezing. Itā€™s also use in refrigeration systems where a leak could contaminate food supplies for the same reasons itā€™s FOOD SAFE.

PEG = polyethylene-glycol is the Toxic green stuff found in Automotive Antifreeze and even it is sold and used as a Vape Fluid under the guise of Cannabis infusing. ( See PEG 200&400 )

If you look youā€™ll see all my recipes have 1% or more of PGA (Pure Grain Alcohol) in my case itā€™s 151-190 proof EverClear
Works as both a fine carrier for additional adulterants like THC-CBD and helps enhance flavors in a high VG mix as @Maureeenie has noted.

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In all fairness I do understand why people get upset to hear a vaper saying PG is anti-freeze. Just as Fidalgo and Jimmy assert, people think of the green poisonous stuff. We all know itā€™s not the same thing but really, it bothers a lot of people to vape so in that sense it acts like a poison. Thatā€™s why your info is so important. Thanks again. Yes we can all love each other! ~Group hug!~

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@Maureeenie criticism aside, I love you for sharing your method. There are more people that canā€™t handle PG than the average crowd wants to admit and everyone who is willing to help those people deserve the proper dose of respect!
Iā€™ve heard and read a lot about PDO, positive and negative things. I was willing to give it a try, but I simply canā€™t get it in the UK and importing it happens at ridiculous prices. This method seems to work and Iā€™m really happy Iā€™ve got an alternative to max VG now. Itā€™s not that itā€™s absolutely horrible, but yeah, a better flavor carrier and/or thinning agent is sometimes appreciated.
Big, HUGE thanks :heart: and respect! You put a lot of time in this and know that it is appreciated by many.

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yes you guys can we do :wink:

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off topic but what makes a persons skin so oily , after vaping in my car while im waiting for an appointment my fave gets super oily is that the pg or vg im just curious , i actually carry stridex pads so b4 i go into a measure i dont look greasy lol at least not feel it

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misread posts, thought you used the pink shaker to make your vg/alcohol/nic base.

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I would guess mostly the VG since it is used in skin moisturizer, but probably a little bit of both as PG is used in cosmetics as well as moisturizers.

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I do, I put pink PG in my camper lines.

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You gotta fightā€¦ for your rightā€¦ to vape propylene-glycollllllll!

Or Vegetable Glycerin. Loveā€™s all the way around.

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Oh, that menthol thingā€¦ I vape about 15 ML of menthol vape a day. This VG mix smooths out the menthol. If you go too high on he wattage with menthol you will smoke through coils like aā€¦ yeah. Fire. Menthol is very hard on coils. I get two weeks out of a custard tank coil. Menthol coil is toast in a week.

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PG is also used as a preservative and ā€¦it kills bacteria.

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Yeah I find the tanks I use for menthol go through coils faster than my fruity tanks. I usually keep each tank for the same general profile, lol.[quote=ā€œMaureeenie, post:55, topic:138190, full:trueā€]
PG is also used as a preservative and ā€¦it kills bacteria.
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And see, this is why I probably wonā€™t go completely PG free. Someone recently posted a scientific break down about the % of PG that maintained a sterile environment in liquids. Iā€™d still love the smoother.texture and to use less PG if I can manage it.

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Itā€™s in a ton of flavors people use, you really canā€™t completely get away from it.

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This is the list of Open Source Juices and I think all of them call for 6-10% Penta Water. Copied from.

Anonymiss

Jun '16
All Recipes are now copied into ELR, really sucks what happened to them seems incredibly unfair :frowning:

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Oh Wow! Thank you.

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Thank you so much for posting this @Maureeenie! I might have to give this a try!

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