USPS, FedEx, DHL & UPS (!) Vape Mail Ban, incoming late March/ April 2021: Discussion, Updates, Info, Venting, Emotional Support

Especially if the other option is $10-15 -for a four week wait.

I never feel quite 100% at peace in the time between placing an order online and getting it delivered.

It’s like, the time between is a period where I’ve paid for my goods yet they’re out there floating around somewhere in a mail network…

Once it’s in my hands, 100% calm again.

I’ll always pay twice the postage to get it that much faster: just so the time it’s floating around the nether is reduced as much as possible.

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How about “Mike Chopped my Dick Off Weed Smoking Whiskey Guzzling Oxy Eating Women’s Bathroom Dweller”. Yep, sounds like an average American to me.

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If you spend over $100 at Nude Nicotine you get free shipping! Just a tip if you’re going to order from them anyway. If that was just for example purposes, then disregard my comment :sweat_smile:

I live 20min away from Nude Nic, but they haven’t answered me yet on whether or not they’ll offer in person order pickups. I’ve asked 3x in hopes of getting an answer for this thread but I’m assuming they’re figuring things out on their end.

I also live just under 2.5 hours away from both River Supply & Liquid Barn as well, they haven’t given me a straight answer yet either.

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i have no idea what you are talking about. but it looks like you put a lot of thought into it :+1:

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Most of my vape stuff coming via China Post or Singapore Post have some sort of fake description visible (i.e.fishing parts). I would say products from manufacturers being shipped via FedEx or DHL will have an accurate description on them as there has been no reason not to (until now). They are marked ‘sample only - not for resale’ so they don’t attract taxes and duties.

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I will always watch reviews before pulling the pin on a purchase. You do have to be objective when watching and not get taken in by the hype (and yes, in my earlier days I made some mistakes by being sucked in). Nowadays I tend to jump past the intro and unboxing and get the build deck, airflow, coil placement, wicking and final thoughts (pro’s and con’s). I’m comfortable with my own knowledge and experience as to whether what I have seen will work for my style of vaping.

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same here. i’m thinking they are going to get much more creative with the descriptions.

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Received a drip tip order from Half Moon Mods (US), they now class their product as ‘resin parts’

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they will have to change their name = Half Moon Flashlights :crazy_face:

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LOL… I can see a lot of new flashlight manufacturers coming out from the USA :+1:
e.g. Kennedy Vindicator 21700 Flashlight now that would be cool!

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I wish I had known this years ago and now that I do it’s a bit late.lol But I do thank you for the information. I am not terribly worried about the vape mail ban from a personal position. Over the years I have made enough friends globally that getting nicotine shipped to me won’t be an issue. In fact I am waiting on some wonderful German concentrates some friends are sending me. I have also prepared for this over the past few years. I bought a dedicated freezer, connected it to my home generator in case of power loss, bought Nude Armor Argon and anti-oxidizing in 50ml bottles. All stored in light, air proof bags and tuned every 30 days. I have about 3.5 gallons stored up and the nic I am currently using is about 5 years old and is clear as the day I bought it. I sent NN an email and they think they may be some “more expensive” shipping options they are still looking into. I also asked about powered nicotine which I do not know much about but they didn’t respond to that so my search continues on that.

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I just received an email from River Supply in my inbox. It is intended for their business to business sales only. It states that effective 4/1/21 they will ship nicotine to businesses that have filled out “Pact Act Business Form 2021” via freight carrier. They will continue to ship non nicotine products via ground. This is exceptionally good news. I suggested previously that when we (DIYers) frequent our local vape shops now, it would be a good idea to inquire if they would purchase nicotine for resale to us. You can now point them to River Supply and let them know it is possible. This does represent a bit of a silver lining to the impending storm cloud.

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it would be the rare shop that sells DIY, as it would/could take away from their juice sales. or, the price would be so high that nobody would buy it.

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More likely to use the nic for house juices and charge a premium I am sure…

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oh. and i bet after all this blows over, fedex, ups, dhl go back to shipping BtB

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House e-liquid is going to disappear too. The PMTA is going to take care of that.

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I believe they will go back to B-B.

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Has everyone already forgotten about the 6-figure estimates PER LIQUID PMTA fees??

There’s not going to be many LEGAL house eliquids. And those businesses who are dumb enough to try and circumvent the system (and random checks that are sure to follow) are risking their business anyways.

I think those that choose to carry it, are going to find increased sales.
But I’m also wondering what percentage of the ones brave enough to consider doing so, how many are going to be dissuaded by the fear of noobs having access to “straight Nicotine” (not talking about pure [1000mg/ml], but even just 100mg/ml or 48mg/ml??

I know I wouldn’t hand over 100mg/ml nic to just any idiot walking in off the street (to make a few extra bucks).

Then comes the question of how to qualify an experienced mixer (who IS safe to sell the product to)? You would almost have to have an established relationship with the business. And in many of the cases here (at ELR), I would bet the majority of long-term mixers (like myself) are in the same boat I am. I haven’t bought B&M in years with a single handful of exceptions. Certainly not enough to have any kind of relationship with a single business.

I don’t know folks.
I’m just as curious/concerned as the rest as to how this is going to play out. ESPECIALLY for those trying to quit smoking, and those just starting to learn how to DIY.

One giant shit sandwich, no matter how you slice it.

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Thanks @Sprkslfly

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Me either until yesterday …I had to run out of the house and fogot spare battery ( 21700) so I called the local Tobacco/ Vape / bong store . They had 2 in stock ( 21700 batteries) so I walk in , I start saying OMG you really saves me blah blah blah , the girl asks how many I need and I say oh just one HOW MUCH are they she say 19.99 ya 19.99 for 1 21700 battery whoa 19.99 FFS …This is why people don’t shop BnM this is why I stock up

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