I believe that is the goal …All we can do is hope that VapeFreight or smaller companies will distribute …Only time will tell
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Yes…Hardware as well UPS and Fed Ex didnt have to do what they are doing , but as a business owner I understand if it doesnt make dollars it doesn’t make sense
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This is the DHL “tobacco” stance: Tobacco Products
Domestic (USA) restricted (shipments of cigarettes to individual
consumers is prohibited). Adult signature required. Outside the U.S.
many countries have specific import restrictions. Please contact
Customer Service at 800-CALL DHL for details.
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I believe the PACT act will change this …@Woftam or @anon70102222 please move our conversation to an appropriate thread
@HVPGH please dont get caught up hoping something will change …Stock up as mich as you can for whatever time you feel you need …
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No, for sure I am not of those expectations - I am prepared for this BS.
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Good …I dont know all the facts and maybe something will save the industry there will be changes and hard times for a minute unfortunately
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Was watching TTV Show (ST Vapes) on youtube earlier. Mike Vapes got a call from FedEx regarding a package from China (an atomizer) and said they could not deliver as it was a vape product. They also confirmed no B2B deliveries either. He told them to send the package back to china.
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so how did they think it was vape ? mike VAPES perhaps, hmmm.
son gonna have to change his name. he could change it to mike crackhead and nobody would care, smh.
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The details were probably on the packing label. Apparently the lady couldn’t say atomizer was calling it a centermizer 
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yeah, well, i didn’t see that package. but every package i have got from china in the last 2 years said “nothing” about vapes on them.
i don’t want to call BS, but…
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I went to watch this after your post and between them they had no consensus on B-B shipments. I remain hopeful that they are not excluded. It will put not only the online retailers out of business but the B&M ones that can’t get DHL deliveries too.
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I have tried to watch a few of those vape review videos but I cannot handle my posture being constantly set on a cringe for 5-15mins straight…
Way they’re always waving their arms and hands around; the fact they will spend an entire video talking shit or umming and ahhing because they’ve got nothing to say and just the sight of some 30+ year old with a cap on backwards acting like a teenager with all the home-boy gestures and moving around like they heave a muscle control disorder…
They could save themselves the embarrassment of a 15 minute video and just have a blog post with a single line of text as their review: “they sent me this kit for frees so it’s pretty good, butI probably wouldn’t actually waste my own money buying one - but YOU definitely should!”
Mostly though, it’s the cringing those reviews cause for me: recommending a product you’d never pay for with your own money is so obvious most people aren’t falling for that, but that ‘trying to look hip like the cool kids’ shit, I can’t watch it.
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I’m hardly a fan either - these three kind of rub hard.
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That sums up most of the ones I have seen too…
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If they’d just sit still, calm the fuck down and do the reviews like adults since the audience they’re targeting are mostly adults, their videos would be much more watchable 
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Yeah and they’ve probably been told by someone that moving their hands around keeps peoples attention focused on them, which might be true in a busy location where they’re competing for eyeballs but even then there’s a right way to use movement and there’s just constantly twitching and moving around like a fool and the latter seems to always be how vape reviewers do it.
That amateur-looking movement combined with the bullshit recommendation sees my respect drop to 0 after a few seconds then close the video completely within two minutes.
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I don’t think 3-5 day shipping from China for 32.00 is bad at all. My order from Nude Nicotine in the states will likely take two weeks + via USPS and cost is only half.
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I have only ordered from ECBLEND once but their email sounds promising as I’m sure other companies will be going the same route they are
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You wouldn’t believe how much business DHL does here in the US. They get the order to the airport in China. They pick it up at the US airport. They move your package to their hub’s then to your local USPS station who does last mile delivery.
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I’d pay that.
DHL is $19 here for the same time frame ordered from New Zealand which is practically just down the road by comparison.
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