How do you feel about changing PG/VG ratio? I normally vape 40/60 but the recipe calls max 35/65 which IMO is not too far off?
Wonder what @Alisa and the others think?
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I donāt think that would be drastic enough to make a distinct change.
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I canāt see how anyone could take an offense to that comment, to me it was an implied āfixā to their tastesā¦ like with me and coconut extraā¦ I canāt vape itā¦ learned the hard way with literally a liter or so of different mixes, so if I have a recipe Iāve gotten from someone that has coconut extra Iām going to fix whomsoever recipe it isā¦ offense shouldnāt be implied for anyone to make adjustments for what they are making in the diy world. If you wish put a disclaimer on your recipes saying you canāt make this if you donāt have the exact thingsā¦ kinda silly if ya ask me though. Itās also one of the reasons Iām not too keen on publishing how I make recipes upā¦ Iād give āThe Naked Chefā a whole new meaningā¦ (havenāt seen Jamie Oliver on the tube in a while come to think about it).
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I did not say it was me. I just was tryin to maybe shed light on what was goin on here. If you hadnāt noticed some tempers kind of flared. I was giving reasons as to maybe why. Thatās all I was trying to do here. To maybe smooth some things out, so we can get the help that is needed. The other points were just suggestions to maybe further his knowledge.
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lolololā¦
ya got me laughing nowā¦ I wasnāt trying to pick on ya, just making comments alsoā¦ if were not careful weāll be getting into a spin off debate alsoā¦ lolol
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LOL, I am ready if you are.
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Hi guys,
I still think itās s change in VG/PG ratio problem.
I will order the exact same ingredients I finally found a vendor that does all the concentrates to send easily in Australia. So can get everything.
Note I like at last 50pg for throat hit. VG max max mixes donāt do it for me at the moment.
Ok so I have 2 things I want to observe. Adjusting flavour with PG ratio adjustment. Substitution impact.
- Iāll make the recipe to the mark. Max VG, etc steep 1 week (control/reference mix)
2 Iāll make the recipe to the mark. Max VG, steep 1 week but substitute the 2 flavours I originally substituted.
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Iāll make the recipe 50/50 PG and adjust flavour 20% no substitutions (I did 10% & substitutions)
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Iāll make the recipe 50/50 PG and adjust flavour 20% with substitutions.
This should allow me to get some decent evidence & experience the effects of these changes directly. Iāll use the same mod, tank & coil(stock) to do the test as a control. May even get a friend to put the mixes into tanks blindly to remove bias.
Iāll let you know the outcome of my results. My next flavour order wonāt be for a week or two. So I wonāt have y observation for say 3 -4 weeks, with steeping time.
I just thought Iāll make a fresh batch of the control to have a no steep test too. Thatāll add a good observation for steep effect.
Ok guys, Iāll do that and write up the results. Stay tuned.
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I also have not had any trouble with BAN tasting like mocha, but itās one of those thingsā¦if itās not for you, itās not for you. Or maybe if they were rebottled, one of the flavors you used was too strong or too weak. I donāt get the pepper people talk about either with VBIC. But I do think Glazed Doughnut tastes like playdoh and Flavorah Pralines tastes like dirty mushrooms. Everyoneās got that lil hiccup theyāve gotta get past. Maybe a sub IS needed for one of the flavors so that it is more to your liking. Regardless, looking forward to hearing what you come up with. Never know who else may have this problem and find their answer in this thread. Assuming, of course, they use the search. 
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Just fyi, what happened was I was asking for help and got told that I was being unfair in the process. Pissed me right off, rightly so. Then I over reacted woops. Better now.
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I think you will find the one with 50/50 to be too sweet IMHO. PG does add a sweetness to your mix. Are all your flavors PG or VG?
They are FW, CAP & TPA so I think PG.
Iād love to see a thread purely communicating with gifās. Not sure how to ask for recipe advice that way though.
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itās BAN manā¦itās like the ELR holy grailā¦
youāre lucky to be alive reallyā¦
Liam Neeson was literally dialling your phone numberā¦
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Are you factoring in that your PG is also in your flavors?
@Pugs1970 I know your being tongue in cheek ( I assume), there arenāt a lot of tthreads get the interest this recipe advice has
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my tongue is pretty much coming through my cheek 99% of the time ā¦
you get used to it 
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I used ELR and have my flavours in my stash, they are all correctly assigned. I then decided to reduce all the flavourings equally by 10% because of my increase in PG.
because I was substituting 2 flavours I realised that the strength might not be precisely the same.
For example Bavarian Cream FW was substituted with TPA
I looked up each ones average single flavour percentage
FW 8.9%
TPA 6.2%
6.2/8.9=69.66%
And adjusted accordingly, I know itās not perfect. But itāll be a good solution.
The other ingredient I subbed was Sweetener FW with super sweet CAP using the same methodology. I have subsequently found out that super sweet CAP may not be a pure sucralose. So Iāll take that into account. If someone can tell me what CAP super sweet is made up of that would help. The internet says it could be 20% sucralose solution or sucralose unknown percentage with some other bits and bobs.
Anyways, Iām confident my tests will reveal a whole deal of information to me. Not only that Iāll have all the exact same ingredients so can eliminate as a variable.
My end goal is - if I like it, then find the same mix but with higher PG. As a bonus Iāll also learn a little about substitutions, the effects of super sweet CAP and how much to adjust recipes if changing PG/VG ratios.
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