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N.E.T Creations and Reviews (Naturally Extracted Tobaccos or Teas)


#441

70mm/7cm will get you very close to the size filter used for the Aeropress.


#442

I got this yesterday:

and shot a cheap vacuum pump on ebay. For the first filtration, to squeeze the tobacco, i will use a tool which you make normaly mashed potatoes with. Also a very cheap used one from ebay. I hope it will work like i imagine.


#443

I’m sure you will be happy with your new NET tools. :wink: Finding what works for you is just part of the fun.

What tobacco are you filtering on the first go round with your new equipment?


#444

Tabaccoleaves from: Burley, Virginia, Kentucky, Orient and American Blend Stripes (Ithink it´s a blend from the others). I put the leaves in ethanol around 70% and let them steep till end of the month. the press, filtering, dilute with pg and remove the ethanol with moderate heat. and then steeping for 3 month or so. Thats the plan.


#445

Reporting back on the G.L. Pease ~ Stonehenge Flake, after a 6 month cold steep. This is a very nice Va/Per with a pleasantly full flavored Burley kicker; very satisfying ADV.

GL Pease Stonehenge Flake 2oz | Smokingpipes.com

I played around with my maceration technique and solvents on this one; very happy with the outcome.

Started the maceration off with 1oz of tobacco in PG, warmed at 125 degrees for 8 hours. After the cook, I added 50ml of PGA to the maceration, sealed the jar, gave it a good shake (and once a month for good measure) to blend the solvents and sent it off to the steep closet for 6 months.

Prior to filtering, the PGA content in the maceration was reduced via evaporation, by roughly 40%. After the filtering process (2.5 micron), the extract was then mixed with my base at 15%.

I feel this hybrid solvent technique brightened up the outcome of my usual PG maceration considerably; also, no discernible PGA flavor note in the vape.

No matter your maceration technique, the GLP Stonehenge Flake is one for the keeper/cellar list, if you like a Va/Per with plenty body.


#446

Do NET Liquids need a steep, after mixing?


#447

There are many varying opinions on this front. It all comes down to your personal choice, experience, and/or mixing methods.

For me, after the process of mixing (+/- 30 minute warm rice bath and frothing/stirring), I find most of my NET mixes ready to vape immediately.

For others, they say allowing the NET mix to rest/steep for a bit after mixing, allows things to meld and mellow.

In time, you will decide for yourself… or as @Josephine_van_Rijn says, “when it tastes good to you… it has steeped enough”.


#448

I’m gonna hear this quote for a long time don’t I?


#449

Wise words my friend, thank you.

I’m glad to vape my first net and make my own practical experience. DIY is a very exiting hobby, which put my patience to the test.


#450

That statement from you has always been my absolute favorite concerning “steep time”! In my opinion… It completely sums up the topic! :wink:


#451

I made a few NETs six months or so ago, some worked, some didnt, the one I have gone back to time and time again is in the recipe below which I am really enjoying this evening on first tastes:

PS Thanks for this thread, some of the main contributors comments were invaluable in helping me make my purchases both in terms of tobaccos and the likes of the aero press and crock pot, great thread!


#452

How was this as a stand alone vape? The NET “cigar types” here on ELR would probably be interested to know. :thinking:


#453

I really enjoyed it standalone.The description of the real cigar is “The taste starts with notes of spice and liqorice with an earthiness to it, but then there is an advancement in flavour to reveal a plot of floral and herby notes”. I dont have really refined tastebuds so didnt get this, maybe others might.
I have only tried FA cigar like tobaccos and hated them as the earthiness in them to me tasted like vaping mud…but there is an earthiness and dryness to this which I found the opposite to FA as I found it really pleasant and authentic rather than horrible. This was what surprised me, its a really light cigar and not floral like either at all, I did get a certain spicyness to it as well, though couldnt say what that was, but it gave it a little kick. If I was to guess what it was without knowing I would probably have said a really nice cigarillo. Also a pleasing aspect for me is this one hasnt been as harsh on my coils as some other NETs, which is a real positive, as others I have made and also bought frustrated me with all the cotton changing to not use them so often.


#454

Often times, the smokers “description” of how a tobacco tastes is skewed by the combustion factor, which we may not experience when the tobacco flavor is extracted from the leaves and vaped.

On a side note… I find it very interesting when the “nose” of a certain tobacco, when smelled in the bag or tin, turns out to be absolutely nothing like when it is vaped. Example: The GL Pease Stonehenge I just extracted, had a dank, musty and sour nose smell. Once vaped, none of that odor/flavor made it through to the vape. I’ve learned to not take to heart, written tobacco reviews from actual smokers… our experience as NET Vapers is often 180 degrees from the combustion viewpoint. :smirk:


#455

That’s my experience too, cigar NET’s are a lot cleaner than the pipe tobacco’s and very tasty :yum:


#456

Cigar leaf, no doubt, is less processed/cooked/cased than pipe tobacco. I don’t know this to be 100% a fact… but, my best guess is, cigar leaf has much less of a natural dextrose content as well; less gunk factor. :thinking:


#457

yes, exactly… Cigars get their flavor from fermentation which is a very specialized process of curing tobacco leaf for use on the rolling table. This is a fundamentally different process technique than that used for pipe tobacco. The fermentation occurs by the conversion of the precursor sugars into other compounds, so the percentage of sugars decreases in direct proportion to the activity of the reactions involved.

With pipe tobacco, not all, but some of which, the blenders have actually added sugars and other carbonaceous mixtures (honey for example) which just aggravate the gunking problem for us vapers.


#458

I have no idea as to the reason why but I notice a fast difference between gunk in pipe and cigar liquids. The liquid from cigars is lighter in colour too.
The cigar liquids have become my favourite when it comes to NET. I haven’t vaped one yet that I didn’t enjoy.


#459

Yes, I got the idea from my experiments that the casing with pipe tobacco was adding a lot towards the gunk factor


#460

I have found the same from my initial efforts, was expecting to love the pipes and not the cigar and cigarillo I tried, turned out to be the opposite. Only one of the pipes really worked was a balkan one, potent and tasty, proper smoky pipe taste…but alas, coil killer to rival FW yellow cake, which really isnt for somebody with my inpatience