Problem with max vg and flavors

ehm,i was finishing editing that answer… there are lots of things to improve for sure, but for now i just want to add a huge THANKS! to all of you who answered

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I’ll write more later, but maybe @Maureeenie can help with your DW questions, or @Amy2, both have varying opinions and lots experiences on the subject of max VG mixing. There are more out there, too. Use the search function for topics like Max Vg, PG-free, Distilled water, Vodka, Steeping, etc.
Everyone will likely have a different methodology, and there are many variables, such as what type of set-up you use to vape; tanks, rda’s, rdta’s, mods, wattage, type of coils, etc. will all factor in to how you mix your e-liquids, and whether or not you need to dilute your VG and methods for doing so if you need/want to.
Check this link for ECX shipping info. Argentina isn’t listed, but they would like to ship to you if they can.
http://www.ecigexpress.com/international-shipping

That’s all for now. Hope this helps!

Edit: on percentages, I’ve read different opinions. Some say regular percentages and at least a month to steep, 2 months being better, but some flavors fade, so add them in a couple of weeks before the steep is over. Test them out along the way. Try it at 3 days, 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month, 2 months if you go that far.
And some say to increase the percentages to go Max VG. I don’t know that there is a magic bullet sweet spot for that, as the flavors all have different sweet spots of their oiwn. Start with Single Flavor Test mixes(search for that here, too) Then you’ll know what each flavor’s desired percentage looks like as a single flavor e-liquid, you would adjust that down to mix with others.
It’s a long process of trial and error, refinement and waiting, waiting, testing, waiting and testing and waiting to get results. Especially if you need a month or two to figure out the results. Read as much as you can, watch instructional videos, ask lots of questions, but stick with it! When you get your first “good” e-liquid, it’s a great feeling.

Edit: And take notes! Haha! That’s important. They don’t necessarily have to be technical, just write your thoughts each time you test a steeping mix.
Eg: 2 week steep: the cream flavors are just about perfect, but the strawberry is starting to fade a little, might increase SB by .5% or add to mix at the 2 week mark next batch, or decrease cream % a little, etc.
Or, something like that. Notes are subjective, everyone has a different style, but they are very important. Check out a lot of recipes in the database and read their notes to get an idea.

Holaa ill get back to you later too… Thanks a lot for the info and
patience,… So Many questions so litterae time…
Ill do my homework ten no promise to get back wirpth the resulta what ever
they may be.:

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litterae = little, i really do hate my tablet text

basically ANY general suggestions for a starting percentage will be appreciated, the flavors are merely so you have an idea of my possibilities

thank you!
as we discussed the other day, most people add “something” to max vg, like
they do in the link lolly so kindly sent… i cannot add it at least not
for a few months until i finish my first batches of bases buttttttttt since
the flavors have theyre own pg percentage perhaps that helps with texture
and flavor. I will be following maureeeenie adn amy2 and you three guys,
the ones that answered if you dont mind
plunder for the links and good thought and will… the links with natural
flavors are even cheaper that what i pay for TPA and other brands like that
here… but i dont think they can ship to argentina just that easy… i know
its hard to import vaping items, not really sure about liquids and food
stuff, but in case they are not allowed here i might lose the shippment and
even if we can ship, i just guess the delivery fee would be too high.
thanks anywayyy!!
did see a couple of youtube videos on eliquid, would love more if you have
links, please

sure, will write down everything, i already have my ecig reducing nicotine
notebook, i will set up a different one for my eliquid ALCHEMY recipes…
as for steeping, i will do my hw on that one too, but have you tried any
good shake and vapes? id like to have something to start vaping my own
safe(ish") juices as soon as possible so then i can take longer with the
rest of the batches
next monday the last items necesary arrive… spiderweb and bat wing… :stuck_out_tongue:
haha, small jars so i can mess up and not lose so much liquid
i will start with single flavours, as many recommend in the forum and
everywhere
so… of the above list, what percentage would you start with ? minimum, i
mean, i will paste them again:
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
wrong edit before, here it goes on the right post, noobie mistake

Coffee tpa
dx bavarian cream tpa
dx milk tpa (the “dx” milk is sorta dubious… if anyone has anynews about this version being safe, I will buy it again)
cappuccino tpa strawberry ripe pa sweetener tpaCoffee tpa dx bavarian cream tpa dx milk tpa cappuccino tpa strawberry ripe pa sweetener tpa
banana tpa
banana nut bread tpa

basically ANY general suggestions for a starting percentage will be appreciated, the flavors are merely so you have an idea of my possibilities

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Hello! I’m out of town right now but…

Use coffees, cactus and other powerful flavorings at micro percentages. Those still take over the mix regardless of PG. All others start by increasing by 1%. Remembering you are making it to your preference and we all like it a bit different.

Welcome to the club, my friend.

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pleased to meet you, and thanks for the advice… i have some varieties of
coffee and other flavours, ill start from micro percentages as you say…
.thanks!!!

If you click on the flavor in your flavor stash, you will find recommended percents and more details in the notes section. http://e-liquid-recipes.com/flavor/20613
You’ll see lots of different recommendations for single flavor batches, but that’s subjective. I saw anywhere from 2% to 24% for that one flavor. 24, I think would be wasteful, as once you pass the ceiling of the highest percent of a flavor, it can mute the flavor, oddly enough. But, if you try 24% and like it, that’s just fine. It’s yours! No rules, just suggestions.
There is a general consensus of starting a non-concentrated flavor at 5% as a starting point(highly concentrated flavors (MF) from .5-2%). It’s the 5% rule. Most thorough mixers do a range of %s to test a new flavor in different bottles, the test them out at 1 day, 3 days, 1 week, 2 week , a month. You will find your own version of this. With max VG, you might try one at 5% and one at 10% to start.

Steep time tends to be longer with max VG, but you will find a next-day recipe to use while you wait.
Try fruits for short steeps. Creams, cookies, pie crusts, etc, can take a while to form a good balance.

Bear in mind that I’m still quite new to mixing, so take the more skilled mixers’ advice more seriously! Writing all of this has been kind of an exercise for me, and i hope at least some of it helps you.

thanks, im absolutely dazzled and bewilderedddddddddd with your answers
guys, thanks all of you… :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:
yummie for those last flavors ! totally excited and awaitng to receive
10ml jars on monday so i can trust testing…
how long do you let it steep before deciding it is too soft and you want to
add more… 3 days or a whole month?
im referring to Maureeenie micro additions of 1% at a time

Just as a note to your post the 24% is most likely the % from a one shot or similar.

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sorry lolly i didnt repply earlier, great link! im really grateful with all of you guys for helping, in the link they recomend to either use some pg or add DW which is not an option for me right now, but i will definetely have thhat link at hand :smiley:

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ps, thanks for taking the trouble while youre abroad :smiley:

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guys do you have to have any kind of special machine to mix the shake and vapes or is it a manual process?

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Have a look in here for inspiration…I just shake the beejezus outta mine.

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hahahaha, will read it right away, thanks lolly!!!
good vapes to you

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@Lolly you do make me laugh :rofl::rofl::rofl:
‘quote of the year’

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testing everything tomorrow if i have the time… wish me luck! !!! so excited… :stuck_out_tongue:
sometimes i manage to do it but thats just luck… exactly how do i follow all of you guys…?:smile:

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Good luck, Pepa! Let me know how it goes!

this is great guys, im vaping a very decent milk and i have another flask
of strawberry to vape to, thanks!!
is there somehting wrong in mixing my own flavors with some commercial ones
i have left or is it dangerous?
do you guys know if for shake and vape you have to vape a determinate
amount of minutes? hours ? :stuck_out_tongue:
milk is good, ill pass the recipes later, though id like to let it steep
some more

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