A PUBLIC and Civil Discussion on the Rules

no no not at all…we’re not robots…but if someone comes into a thread looking for an answer to ‘what concentrate makes the best custard’ and ends up with the answer of ‘I don’t know but I like to smear it all over my mrs who by the way is still tied to my bed’ …is kind of…shit…and that happens a lot…

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Well who decides when a little levity is too much? OP? Mods? Poll?

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I was waiting for the use of what some people consider foul language. I have personally been known to drop Fbombs, gratuitously, all over the forums as well as many more colorful words. I do not in anyway have an issue with it and at the same times i know that there are places and times for it and times when it shouldnt be used at all.

Yet it is one of the most complained about subjects on our forums. I would like to discuss peoples thoughts on this as well.

This could be left to OPs discretion but there are a lot of users here besides those of us who are chatty cathies.

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A lot of threads end up this way sadly. Off topic and derailed. It would be nice to have the thread and comments focused on the subject matter but how feasible is that? It’s not just the review side of the forum either.

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Absolutely, we have added 4 new mods and this will be one of their missions.

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That isn’t foul where Pugs lives though. Gordon Ramsay says it all the time.

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I can agree with cleaning up much of the forum. Jokes about dick picks don’t need to be in every thread imaginable. But if there isn’t a place on ELR for adults to be adults, then you might as well just start holding Sunday services. Saint ELR Cathedral. :slight_smile: But I don’t see any need for the thousands of members on ELR to suddenly bend to the will of a few. Not that that’s the case here, but it sure seems like it could be. I’m sure there are those who complain incessantly about some things, but when those are changed there will be complainers to take their spots. You just can’t please everyone.

I think in the end the admin staff of the site has to do what they think is the right thing. Hopefully this thread will help shape the future of ELR rather than it being molded in the image of a select few. Especially if that few has no sense of humor.

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common sense?..restraint?..
the argument is that some people look for a reason to turn a thread into an excerpt from a porno …I was gonna say ‘Mag’ but I’m showing my age there… No one is telling anyone to stop having fun, but things have gone too far in a lot of instances and the Op in most cases doesn’t want to get notifications to what he/she thinks are answers but turn out to be…just…weird in some cases, it puts people off asking questions.
It used to be a case of ‘I’m sorry to derail but…blah blah blah’…but even that’s gone. I think a little consideration for the OP should be given.
And from my point of view…because of Steampugs sometimes ‘suggested adult humour’ …it’s been tied into why all this started in the first place and trust me…it would genuinely hurt my feelings if that turned out to be true.

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very [quote=“Kenbu, post:30, topic:182024”]
It’s not just the review side of the forum either.
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i dont even think the review side is an issue , i think pugs nailed with his example , but thats not the only issue , cussing here and there i something adults do its the way it is sometimes used in some circumstances

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Yes we are adults, by law even. And that’s the shame of it all.

It’s a shame that we need stricter rules to make us adults behave. Personally unless stated other wise before entering the forum. I think anything posted in a public forum should be

PG or at the very least PG-13

Unless it’s in a private message. Reason being is simple. Us adults have children . And these children enjoy looking at what us adults are doing.

I think most here are guilty of off topic drifting. Myself included.

Yes it’s fun , but it can be agrivating to someone who’s looking for help.and it can be agrivating to the mod who has to attempt to clean it up.

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This is going to sound snarky and I don’t mean it to be. It’s very simple, practical facts of life. If foul language offends someone, they should stay off the internet completely. Stay out of Walmart, the grocery store, the DMV, the Ballgame, just don’t go anywhere, ever…honestly…

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Strong Language
When kept in context, I don’t see an issue with it, when it is random or not needed, I can see some people being offended, that is more of a personal preference though and this is a “discussion” board where words come thick and fast and situations may require the odd use of strong language as a form of expression.

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I agree, SM. Like i said in chat i do not want this to turn into a Social Justice Warrior haven where everyone must be politically correct and intolerance is pushed under the guise of civility… This is the line we are trying to find.

^^^

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There is… PM’s, they are mini threads you can create between a select few.

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Honestly. It’s best If we were to self police. If we fail in doing so then it should fall to the mods to make an ultimate call.

If you have problems with a post maybe reach out to the poster through a personal message rather than just flagging and making it the mods burden. If that fails flag away. You’d be surprised how reasonable most people can be if they aren’t called out publicly in a forum format.

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I (personally) see this as a 2 (or 3) different set of issues. First off, ya’ll know I’m guilty of tossing innuendos towards people in off hand remarks. I normally would do so only after a thread has run it’s course or has migrated from it’s main point and/or the OP has been satisfied. I totally agree that a specific thread needs to remain on topic but don’t see anything wrong with having fun along the way. Frankly I feel it’s sad that a community that is fun and relaxing wishes to place a church on every corner and no smoking signs all along the streets… that last part was known as a basic elaboration on what appears to be coming about.
I do agree that we (okay okay… I) should keep things on topic and we (collectively) need to police our actions to ensure that those wishing to enjoy the knowledge that is within our community remains intact, the learning can progress and those wishing to become not just knowledgeable but adept at this hobby/lifestyle can achieve those goals.
That being said, not every thread not every conversation needs nor should be censored nor should they be re-written to specifics because a moral might get trampled upon. @Steampugs or @VapeyMama or other reviewers write as they do because that is how they convey ideas. It is how they perceive their audience to read and follow along with what they are displaying. If I were to go to youtube looking for information on a specific device I might hit 10 or 12 different people reviewing an item until I found one that talked in the style I liked. I see that as the same as different threads here, if I don’t enjoy it I pass it and go on until I find something that does interest me. To stagnate the open forum imho will slowly (maybe not too slowly) start people to not chat in an open dialogue in fear they will be straying away from what is deemed proper.

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That’s the keeper of the child’s responsibility, not the forums. At least it shouldn’t be. I lock the door when I change clothes, for example.

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I am glad to see these new changes implemented. I know some people are uncertain about these things but I think it will be for the greater good. We need these rules and guidelines, everything else will fall into place when that happens. Good to see that you are proactive about it. It only means you care about this forum and I think it’s wonderful to see.

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Your missing the point…

You don’t know the image is there until its too late and I know for a fact the mods have been put in awkward situations because of it.

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I have only seen a few members go into tirades that were episodes of blind rage, strings of incoherent profanity. This form of behavior belongs in a cage not on a forum. It is also disgraceful that in the past moderators have mopped up after these members and swept the episodes “under the rug”. As far as an occasional vernacular used to punctuate a feeling, I think our society is very much desensitized to this and it is quite acceptable. Personally, I don’t care as I really don’t take notice. Having said all that, I think the criteria of “adult users” is skewed. Mature adults rarely have a propensity to use profanities. Adolescents are most likely to frequent them.

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