Im about to take my next vaping step, & am ready to order some new kit… an RDA (magma or velocity), an RTA (prob a crown) & a mod. The mod is the issue here. Ideally, Im after small, stealthy, & simple. 2 that have caught my eye are the new joytech Evic VTC mini 60watt & the IPV D2 75 watt. Both offer temp control & both require a single 18650.
The question is… at 600 puffs per day running at say 50 watts using my proposed RTA/RDA combo, how many hrs could I reasonably expect to get out of a Samsung 25R (which seems to be the go-to batt at present, correct?)??
Never used batteries like these before so Ive got no idea. I’m hoping not to have to change em out every 3 hrs - if so, I’ll have to consider something a little less stealthy.
Am I looking at the right batteries? Am I looking at the right mod(s)? Am I in fact going to need a mod running dual 18650’s if i want a days use?
What are your thoughts?
I realize the builds I use will play a great part in this… so, I’ll tell u Im after flavor more than clouds so dont intend crazy builds…
If you really want extended life a dual battery mod is best. But if you go single battery you should get a high mah battery since you need life and not power.
I know the known brands like samsung, sony, LG etc are the ones to go for …Im sure one (or all) of those offer a high mah option. But from your exp, which would you recommend as the best?
You can’t go wrong with either those. Just look for the best price from well know dealer to avoid counterfeits. I use efest because thats what I started with and have never had a problem with them.
wow, that thing’s tiny! I’ve seen pics of them before but they looked quite large with nothing to compare them against. Definitely the power & batt life Im looking for …& the stealth!
Just checked out the M80 plus - 4400mah - $75 over here in Aust. The vendor also has things to say about the “crude temp control” …basicly no refunds if it doesnt work as expected etc., but thats ok with me - I’m still ‘on the fence’ about TC anyhow. Could be a go-er!.. my choice definitely wont be either of the 2 that I was lookin at - even with a high mah batt Id be lucky to get 1/2 a day out of either of them.
Thanks heaps for the pic @Jondamon!! Really helpful!!
I recommend the IPV4s. Two 25r batteries for 5000mah. TC that works and Ti wire support.
You may be on the fence at this time but I know you will change your mind real quick if you get a decent TC mod and build with Ti. The difference between the taste of Kanthal and Ti wire is enough of a reason alone…
I feel your pain. I’m still trying to find the perfect TC, single battery, decent battery life mod. I get a whole day out of a 25R with mine (50w mod), but I typically don’t run over 20w. I have a D2 intellicharger and four of these but they are supposedly being phased out for these. I charge two batteries every other day and carry one with me. Typically running a 0.5ish single coil in a Subtank or on a Magma or PV 1.5.
Yeah,… I’,m sure ur right ‘bout that… which I guess is why I’m looking at mods that have TC, & 1 of those that I mentioned (the Evic VTC) supports Ti …but I’m still on the fence & I’ll try to explain why…
I cant say that wouldnt be an advantage …Ti support I mean. I’d certainly prefer to be using Ti over Kanthal or nickel, from both a flavor AND safety point of view …but what id grab in a flash is a mod with SS wire support & I dont believe thats an option yet …is it??. That’d be dancin’!!
I’ll say the (apparent) lack of SS support is why I’m still on the fence about TC.
And why am I so hung-up about SS? Well, the first I heard of SS or Ti was in the thread I started “What is the benifit of higher wattage” when @Pro_Vapes said to @Professor_Snape… “Kanthal is the lowest ranking wire for vaping. You can get much, much better flavor with SS or Ti…”
For some reason,the prospect of using SS just struck an immediate cord with me! I cant say why it did more so than Ti - illogical… just felt it in me bones - SS for me!
I confess I’ve gotta do more diggin on this, but from the little I’ve read so far (& I’ve just discovered I forgot to friggin well book-mark it, didnt I!!? Duhh!..o/wise I’d be sharin the link…i’maneeediot!) it seems the safest long-term option. I’ll see if I can find it.
Well, holy crap! that was a deft leap from batteries to wire, wernt it??
So, back on track…
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Two 25r batteries for 5000mah.
[/quote]So be it!
I’m using a single Sony 18650 battery in the Sig. 75. I think if I used it exclusively, I would be changing the battery daily. I would have to do a little digging, but it seems that I read a post on this forum, that somebody used a SS coil in TC mode and it worked.
I’ll start by saying this as I have in other threads. The Samsung 25R is by far the most vaped battery on the market right now. It has a super high pulse rating for mech mod users building super sub-ohm, it also has good life. Well there are some new batteries that have came out in the recent year. I’m mainly speaking of the LG HG2 battery. It is rated at 3000mAh and has a 20A continuous rating with a pulse of 50A < 3 seconds.
I have the new XTAR VC4 charger which shows you in real time how much mAh it charges from the time you put the battery on the charger. I did a little test here to see how much mAh it would actually charge if I discharged a battery to 3.0V. I did this test with a LG HG2 and a Samsung 25R (these are the only 2 batteries I use anymore). The LG battery charged up 2850mAh whereas the Samsung 25R battery only charged up to 2400.
So to conclude my argument here, IF you need a super high pulse for low sub ohm builds, then the 25R’s are the way to go. If you want battery life for a good single 18650 regulated mod, then I would buy some LG HG2’s. From my own usage I have found that the LG HG2’s last about 2 hours longer for me when vaping them in my single 18650 mod.
Now the life of the 18650 will change depending on what mod you put it in. Example: I have a Sigelei 75W and a IPV D2. The battery life with an HG2 in the IPV D2 is by far the best I have come across for a regulated single 18650 box mod. I maybe use 2 HG2 batteries of all day vaping around 500℉ and 40-50W. Now the other side of the spectrum, the Sigelei 75W has by far the WORST battery life for any regulated 18650 box mod, no matter what battery I use! I go through almost 4 batteries on the Sigelei 75W in comparison to the same vape time on my IPV D2 with 2 batteries.
If you’re looking for a single box mod setup: IPV D2, 2-3 LG HG2’s and you’re set.
If you’re looking for a dual box mod setup: IPV4(s), 4 LG HG2’s and you’re set.
I cant say I’d be vaping all day at 500℉ - not all my vaping will be sub ohm as I enjoy (for now) my Nautilus Mini’s, so an HG2 (+ a couple of spares) in the IPV D2 is a real possibility for me. @ryan8five0, thanks for this info & sorry I missed your previous threads. Cheers!
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I would have to do a little digging, but it seems that I read a post on this forum, that somebody used a SS coil in TC mode and it worked.
[/quote]That would be brilliant …& GREATLY appreciated. My fingers are X’ed!
I understand. As for me, I came from RDA’s and mechanical mods so I like a nice dense, full vape. That’s what makes vaping so nice for me. Everyone can vape, but not every single person will vape the same as the person next to them. It’s all based on what you prefer.
I actually my IPV D2 from wakeandvape based out of California. I’ve ordered a lot from them and they always have some super slick deals going on, like this one.
IPV D2
Samsung 25R
Wake and Vape sock
Silicone sleeve
You get all this for $55 plus $6.50 priortiy shipping (based on location, this is from California to Florida).
