Ohw… thx for your reaction too DarthVapor!
I wasn’t aware of the bleach/peroxide thingy, Im glad you pointed out/a some cons!
When I try to watch the link you provide, I only see a blue screen but withoud content?
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Probably only available in the US, you can try either a VPN or just use google to find other sources.
You know, there are some pretty good guides available on this site that will help you with the recipes part, the forums and some general know-how about vaping and mixing your liquids, as well as some resources where you can buy your stuff, even with discount codes.
Check out
and
to start with. In the beginners section, there are some very useful posts pinned at the top that I definitely recommend going through.
Your English is more than good enough to explain yourself and the more you hang out here, the better you’ll get. Should things get too difficult, I speak Dutch, @Duchesst speaks Dutch, @Josephine_van_Rijn speaks Dutch and probably a couple other people too. If English gets too difficult, you can always just send a PM and ask away but I’m sure you’re gonna do just fine.
A lot of people here started with DIY to save costs. Buying everything premade in a store can become an expensive hobby… but really, don’t start to try saving money on wicks. It’s one of the cheapest parts about vaping and it can make or break your whole vaping experience.
Japanese organic cotton (Puffs, Muji, Koh Gen Do, …) is dirt cheap and will last you a long time. Rayon/Viscose is dirt cheap. Hemp is dirt cheap. There are people who prefer any of these 3 above all the cotton bacon, kendo, native wicks and other more expensive brand names and they’re known for excellent flavor and being safe materials to wick.
I know not all these things are the easiest to find, but if you can’t find something, just ask and this great community will help you out.
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Hmm… factory made coil heads. I know a lot of people use them …& enjoy using them without issue, but personally, I dont like them. I cant criticize Smok coils specifically because I’ve never used them, but in general I believe you are at the mercy of the factory that made them- numerous times, before I started building my own, I’ve bought a pack of 5 replacement coil heads & 2 maybe 3 have been no good - once I bought 3 packs & 12 of the 15 were bad! I have also experienced strong metalic taste using these things. I was told “kanthol (the type of metal generally used in these coil heads) can do that” - taste metalic sometimes.
Perhaps this is the “poison” you are/were tasting? I cant verify this because I’ve never built a coil using Kanthol - I went straight to SS and titanium because they’re both inert & wont flavor your juice (but, read up about titanium before you use it - theres stuff you need to know!!). SS is my favorite these days because its easier to maintain & the flavor is always excellent. Also, if or when you start building your own coils, be sure to clean the wire, what ever sort it is, before you wrap it- wire factories are filthy places (probably just like paper towel factories! lol!). I use vodka - I pull the length of wire I’m about to wrap through a vodka soaked tissue several times - does the trick for me, but others might have a better idea.
@anon28032772 has given you some good tips on wicking material. Be aware though, that some cottons (not sure about rayon or hemp) have what is called a ‘break-in period’, meaning the flavor of your juice might taste a bit ‘off’ or ‘funky’ for the first few pulls. This is totally normal & will quickly pass. I only say this so that when you take your first pull, having spent the the last how-ever long dreaming of, & rightfully expecting beautiful, clean, wonderful flavor, & instead you get ‘the funk’. Dont worry, its not that bad… Your beautiful, clean, wonderful flavor will be along in about 6 pulls. Its different for everyone, but I’ve had the best experience using Koh Gen Do - no break-in funk for me using that. However, I’m presently using Kendo Gold - definitely a break-in on that.
Good luck @vinTage, I’m certain happy vapes are on their way to you! …& welcome!!
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@vintage, The Puffs are on sale for the next few hours for $7.42 (normally $9 something) for a big bag of 200 pieces – this single bag will last hard core users over 2 years – and it has free shipping (to the US), I don’t know if they will ship free to your country.
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The cheapest and most clean and absorbent wick in my opinion is 100./. Rayon! I do like cotton as well but it does put of a weird taste imo at times. Even the high quality vape cotton! This should last you the rest of your life lol jk!
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Organic cotton:
https://www.amazon.de/Cotton-Labo-ORGANIC-120pc-japan/dp/B000TCEXOS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1506656936&sr=8-2&keywords=puffs
Just look around a bit and I’m sure you’ll find plenty sources for organic cotton. You can usually find these in the hygienic or make-up sections of department stores as well.
Rayon/Viscose is a bit trickier to find because it’s usually known under different names
Hemp:
http://www.winghamwoolwork.co.uk/fibres/984-hemp-natural-white.html
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@anon28032772, thanks for pointing out some usefull pages on this website, I did see these already, I was going trough them before I dare to post on the forum 
The guides are mostly about the liquids, but my post isn’t so thats why I posted it.
@vonTrueso, thanks for your reply too.
I can’t say that the factory coils are bad since I don’t have a lot of experience.
Since I bought the RTA I also have to put minimum one new wicks every day, beqause the coil is dirty from burnt liquid and the cotton is completely gone IN the coil.
I bought also a vaper (eleaf pico 25) for my wife the same day as I bought mine, and she’s only on her 2nd coil, but she dont smoke as much as I do. She’s busy with het 40th ml since one month while I am in 300 allready…
Also thanks for the tips about coiling, I don’t coil myself yet, but I prolly will do!
DaveDave, GalacticResidue and Suomynona, thanks for the links and tips about (other) wicking material.
I do know cotton isn’t that expensive, although I payed 6.75 euro for Wicker Beast Cotton by Vapeology.
The box is not even half empty yet 
Maybe I must tell you people that I am a really adicted smoker the last 35 years.
I bought this vaper since one month and my bad habit dropped from almost one package “Zware van Nelle” a day to one package in 3 to 4 days, so that maybe explains the more than 300 ml in one month…
I am still in discovery fase about vaping, but in the the DIY part I was interested in one second
I did buy some aromas and base and nicotine and Im almost out of my shizzle I brewed.
Everything I made was not so good from taste, but it was not really disquisting.
You all know about steeping time etc, but since Im so new, I didn’t have time to steep.
So basicly I do shakeNvape and this is where the cheap kitchen paper is become in handy also… you can test your shakenNvape thingy without wicking with (expensive) cotton and it is also more easy with paper.
Okay, I will not go in argument about the materials what you may or not may inhale with paper, I dont know whats inside.
I will stick to cotton beqause it is probably cleaner, but I must say that the paper also is working really well
Now Im gonna re-wick my coil and hopefully I get my payment today so I can go buy a sh*tload aromas to make some of the recepies from this website 
Happy vaping and a nice weekend to yall!!!
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Oh…
I see now my glass tube has a little crack… that wasn’t there before afaik…
Maybe beqause of the cheap wick material??
The two things I don’t like about rayon is that it out gasses arsenic and formaldehyde.
You have any references to these claims?
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It’s used to be my job. You can look up out gassing of rayon. It’s why you have to wear a respirator while working with it and why you sometimes find that when running a dryer full of clothes with high rayon content you can have trouble breathing. The formaldehyde content depends on how the wood pulp was processed. Rayon is a polymer and all polymers out gas some pretty nasty stuff.
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Save me the trouble of looking it up and link me bro.
And I mean the final product that hits the shelves at Sally’s.
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Highly toxic carbon disulfide is used in the production of viscose, leading to many incidents and legal cases.[13] However, the volatile carbon disulfide is lost before the rayon gets to the consumer; the rayon itself is basically pure cellulose.
So processing it it is dangerous. But when it reaches the consumers it harmless.
Back it up with facts, please.
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And we have had this convo before and you have yet to back it up with facts. I even pointed out to you previously that cotton is one of the most chemically treated cash crops there are. But before it reaches the shelves the chemicals are removed. Same with rayon. All chemicals are removed before it reaches the consumer.
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I’m sceptical about this. Because clothing is treated with formaldehyde for all kinds off purposes like easy iron, less wrinkly, color fastness, waterproof, stainproof, etc. Seems highly unlikely to me that they would put this on hairdresser Rayon. Furthermore if you can have trouble breathing dryer fumes from loads with to much Rayon, don’t you think we would heard more complaints from vapers not being able to breathe after using Rayon? I’m very sorry but without cold hard facts i’m not concerned, i do understand if you are though.
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Only if you dry burn it.
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And can’t the same be said about cotton? dry hits it isn’t healthy either, they produce more formaldehyde than regular cigarettes too (that’s how “scientific studies” one day proved that e-cigs were more dangerous than regular tobacco). That’s why I use temp control, that’s why I change my cotton every few days.
And I mean please, let’s all agree that breathing fresh air is still safer than vaping. Vaping isn’t “safe”, it does come with risks but they’re immensely less harmful than smoking and that’s why we do it.
People have been regularly vaping on viscose for probably about 5 years now. If there was arsenic in the rayon gasses, I’m pretty sure we would’ve heard of a few people dying here and there. Even if it’s ONE person, the media loves to blow up stories about vaping so everyone would’ve heard this sensationalist story.
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I am no expert, but that part about formaldehyde maybe isnt the real truth?
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As long as you’re not getting any dry hits, the formaldehyde is barely present. Tests have been done on dry cotton and those prove that even more formaldehyde come off of it. I don’t think those results have any weight in a real world environment, nobody vapes like that.
If you want to check out actual scientific test results on electronic cigarettes, search for Dr Konstantinos Farsalinos.
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I really don’t feel like digging through all the text books to find the data. It’s polymerized wood or bamboo pulp. Is it worse than an analog, I seriously doubt it. I just prefer not to add any more known toxins to my regimen than I need too, but you might want to look up the process before using it, your choice. I’m not going to dis anybody for using it, it’s just not “safer” than cotton.