Chemnovatic Flavor Notes

Yeah, if a flavor is exactly what your after then the strength of the concentrate is not as important to me. Companies like Molinberry bug me a little though. They charge like flavoring companies who work well in the 1 to 2% range but MB generally need higher, like between 3 to 5% or more, not a good value, they should charge less. That said I have had to buy large bottles of some MB flavors but damn, some are around $26 for a 120ml.

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Strawberry (Chemnovatic) 7% (6-28-20) – This one was interesting out of the gate, and not necessarily in a good Strawberry way. If any of you have even had a Luden’s cough drop, that is exactly what came to mind. NOW, it did NOT take like cough medicine, but Luden’s has a very unique almost medley taste, and that IS what this had. No medicine, no cough syrup, but the profile is a Luden’s. The overall flavor impact, was somewhat light, considering the 7% mixing weight, and continued vaping did NOT reveal an IYF (In Your Face) Strawberry, but more of a very relaxed, cherry/strawberry blend ?? Had to quantify. Nothing off putting, nothing floral, and despite my reference to a Luden’s cough drop, had nothing medicinal. Sweetness was mid level, and although I do NOT think I would add this to my SB shelf, it WAS interesting enough to finish the tester. With the SB field being very crowded, with some excellent SB’s, this one will get lost in the suffle. As a pure SB, would have to rate down to 4.5/10. Interesting, but weak, and not a focused SB.

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Wonder if they may be using a lot of that new “SB-800“ (EM) in that concentrate? :face_with_monocle:

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Hmmmmm, interesting thought @Rocky02852, I’ve never tried it, or considered that. I hope someone else tries up the SB, and posts their results here as well, as SB’s can be very different for different people.

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Rocky wasn’t talking about strawberry.
He was talking about their Sweetener, which contains ethyl maltol.

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Cookie (Chemnovatic) 9% (6-28-20) – Cookies may be one of the hardest flavors to get right for everyone. Soo many different kinds. American, European, Dry, Chocolate Chip. My absolute current favorite is DIYFS Cookie, and that was more of an American Toll House cookie. This one was actually not like any other I’ve tried yet. If I were forced to compare, it is like a combo of FA Cookie, and JF Cookie. Somewhat dry, nice almost grainy elements, with low to mid sweetness, with no discernible base coloring like Vanilla or Chocolate chip. Rather neutral, and I believe the grainy-ness that I was picking up might lean this more towards a European biscuit style, and away from an American pastry type cookie. It’s not overbearing, and could easily be manipulated to either style. Continued vaping leads me to the assumption that it would def. work in a base, and would require some tweaking to either a pastry or biscuit as you need. All in, pretty solid cookie, fairly neutral, mildly sweet, with some detectable grain to it. 7/10 feels good here.

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Roger that @Sprkslfly, I was stating I wished someone else would test the SB, to see if they got similar results to me, or if I was blind to this SB.

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What you quoted him on was the “SB-800” though… So I took that to mean you were assuming he meant strawberry.

Sorry if you were trying to communicate two separate thoughts.

(he wondered if they were using their SB-800 Sweetener after you mentioned watermelon being more like a cotton candy.)

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Hehe, sorry about that, I could have been a lot clearer.

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No biggie… You just confused me for a bit. chuckles

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I have it mixed at 3 and it has been sitting awhile ill throw it in the rda and give it a whirl

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Chefsflavours.co.uk has Lemon Cream Wafer available have quite a lot of chemnovactic

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Lemon (Chemnovatic) 9% (7-1-20) – Wow, this one IS a complex lemon flavor. Complex ?? I’ve been getting all kinds of different profiles from this one while vaping, and that really surprised me. Sometimes it was more of a lemon head-ish flavor, other times more lemonade-ish, and other times, a super full lemon wherein I could almost detect a cirtus oil finish. Wow, talk about an interesting flavor. Soo many subtle nuances, I think it will be hard to classify as a single noted flavor. Despite having all of the aforementioned profiles, and my inability to put the tank down, I can find NO direct/close comparison as it IS quite unique. I think because OF all of the different profiles contained in this one flavor, it’s uses/usefulness will be quite a few. Obviously I could see it boosting a lemon tart, lemonade, lemon squares, but also just adding a bright punchy high end as well. Sweetness was mid level, and despite chain vaping it, could find NO off-putting notes, or florals, and at 9% it was very strong and full without being overflavored. Whether or not you’re even in the market for OML (One More Lemon), this one SHOULD be on your short list, just so you can experience all of the different profiles. Well worth the purchase, and you will be able to use it across a wide array of mixes. It is a full spectrum Lemon which I find to be rare, with low/middle notes, and plenty of high end punch. Can’t describe it any better than that. A very complex lemon, that covers the entire spectrum, with mid level sweetness, great body, and some high end punch on the top. Without question 10/10.

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Of course I’ll have to order the lemon but curious about fade.

Thank you for the time you take to mix and post all of the flavor notes. You do cost me a bit of money but suspect in the long run you save me a fair bit as well.

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I wish I could add something to that @Letitia but haven’t slept steeped it yet. I can GUESS however, that because (IMO), it is such a unique FULL spectrum Lemon, that time will be kind to it. It’s not just the ultra bright, punchy high end, it’s the full monty.

Thank you very much, that always means a lot.

Hehe, hopefully not THAT much I hope.

That’s what I’m shooting for. I encourage you (and everyone else), to get the flavors for themselves, see what YOU think about them, and NEVER hesitate to post up YOUR thoughts on them. I love to see them.

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I think u must try making a little review of the SB-800 CHEM sweetener, if u like? , i really don’t have the time for mixing these days and I promise to tell about it :weary:
If u want, I send a bottle to you then :+1:t2:

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Lemon Cream Wafer (Chemnovatic) 7% (7-2-20) – I’m quite sure with all the hub-bub about rumors that Dinner Lady Lemon Tart used this flavor, and the ensuing Out Of Stock situation at many vendors will leave EVERYONE wanting to know the answer. Good news for you, is I have NO CLUE !!! I’ve never vaped DL LT, so I can’t help you. What I can help with is this flavor, and how it vapes. Having just tested Chemno’s Lemon, it’s fairly probable that those compounds ARE in here as well. As a solo vape, this one is very, VERY good. Now, I’m not sure if it truly projects a Lemon Cream Wafer (cookie), but WOW, it IS very good. @ 7%, this could EASILY be considered a One Shot. It’s got plenty of lemon punch that carries through the entire vape, but at the half way point, the cookie starts to peek out, and ride all the way to the end of the vape, finishing perfectly with the lemon. My very FIRST reaction was, “Wow, super great lemon, with a cookie, and some custard notes”. Now when I say custard elements, you’re NOT getting the VC slam like from CAP VC, but it feels like it’s IN there, just hiding, peeking out from time to time. Very interesting. The cookie/bakery stays relatively linear throughout the vape as does the lemon. Sweetness might be a pinch above medium, and doesn’t come across as fatiguing. There was also a certain “thickness” that seemed to be in there, that could RESEMBLE maybe some Meringue or Marshmallow, but not high enough to identify, but the “thickness” could not be denied. Overall, this was a great, full, somewhat complex flavor, and I will run this tank dry. I think it’s soo good, that it will go on my must have list for this testing run. To my tastes, the lemon/custard elements set this apart from all of your regular suspects, i.e. CAP Lemon Meringue Pie, VT Lemon Meringue Tart, and WF Flapper Pie. For a really good (basically a One Shot) Lemon Cookie Tart (my words), you cannot go wrong with this. Vape it as is, tweak it a little bit, it’s just a win/win all the way around. Is this the SECRET ingredient in Dinner Lady’s Lemon Tart ?? Time will tell. For the purposes of this test, handily a 10/10.

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Well that’s up to you @BigDisplay. I wouldn’t want you to ship off all your sweetener, or incur expenses therein…

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Vanilla Pudding (Chemnovatic) 7% (7-3-20) – TWO LEFT on deck. When I smelled this when mixing it up, I was reminded of CAP’s VC. Vaping it, I can see why. There is indeed a fairly forward custard element in this Vanilla Pudding, so that may make you WANT it, or HATE it already. I was never a huge fan of CAP VC, but use it daily to add body in custard/creams/bakeries despite that fact. I think my FIRST take on this was more of a reduced CAP VC with some mid level vanilla, and a touch of bakery. My current go to Vanilla Pudding fav would be Flavorah’s hands down, with Vape Train’s Pudding Base as a runner up. This one wasn’t bad by any means, and was actually quite good. Did it leave me thinking “pudding”, not really. It actually could be used quite easily by not CAP VC fans for a custard experience with the eggy slap to the face. All in, this could be easily used, almost like a custard, a mixer, and as a baser for a pudding, but not sure if for my tastes, I’d leave it AS a pudding. Sweetness was below mid level, no overt eggy-ness, but still with very CAP VC like qualities. Didn’t seem to be pushing the ceiling on this @ 7%, and was nicely full, and almost rich at this testing weight. Everyone seems to have a different take on “puddings”, so your mileage will vary, and although pretty good as a custard like bakery flav., not feeling the super pudding here. Good enough to place at a 7/10.

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Really not a problem, i just make a bottle for you :ok_hand:t2:

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