Chefsflavours.co.uk has Lemon Cream Wafer available have quite a lot of chemnovactic
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Lemon (Chemnovatic) 9% (7-1-20) – Wow, this one IS a complex lemon flavor. Complex ?? I’ve been getting all kinds of different profiles from this one while vaping, and that really surprised me. Sometimes it was more of a lemon head-ish flavor, other times more lemonade-ish, and other times, a super full lemon wherein I could almost detect a cirtus oil finish. Wow, talk about an interesting flavor. Soo many subtle nuances, I think it will be hard to classify as a single noted flavor. Despite having all of the aforementioned profiles, and my inability to put the tank down, I can find NO direct/close comparison as it IS quite unique. I think because OF all of the different profiles contained in this one flavor, it’s uses/usefulness will be quite a few. Obviously I could see it boosting a lemon tart, lemonade, lemon squares, but also just adding a bright punchy high end as well. Sweetness was mid level, and despite chain vaping it, could find NO off-putting notes, or florals, and at 9% it was very strong and full without being overflavored. Whether or not you’re even in the market for OML (One More Lemon), this one SHOULD be on your short list, just so you can experience all of the different profiles. Well worth the purchase, and you will be able to use it across a wide array of mixes. It is a full spectrum Lemon which I find to be rare, with low/middle notes, and plenty of high end punch. Can’t describe it any better than that. A very complex lemon, that covers the entire spectrum, with mid level sweetness, great body, and some high end punch on the top. Without question 10/10.
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Of course I’ll have to order the lemon but curious about fade.
Thank you for the time you take to mix and post all of the flavor notes. You do cost me a bit of money but suspect in the long run you save me a fair bit as well.
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I wish I could add something to that @Letitia but haven’t slept steeped it yet. I can GUESS however, that because (IMO), it is such a unique FULL spectrum Lemon, that time will be kind to it. It’s not just the ultra bright, punchy high end, it’s the full monty.
Thank you very much, that always means a lot.
Hehe, hopefully not THAT much I hope.
That’s what I’m shooting for. I encourage you (and everyone else), to get the flavors for themselves, see what YOU think about them, and NEVER hesitate to post up YOUR thoughts on them. I love to see them.
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I think u must try making a little review of the SB-800 CHEM sweetener, if u like? , i really don’t have the time for mixing these days and I promise to tell about it 
If u want, I send a bottle to you then 
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Lemon Cream Wafer (Chemnovatic) 7% (7-2-20) – I’m quite sure with all the hub-bub about rumors that Dinner Lady Lemon Tart used this flavor, and the ensuing Out Of Stock situation at many vendors will leave EVERYONE wanting to know the answer. Good news for you, is I have NO CLUE !!! I’ve never vaped DL LT, so I can’t help you. What I can help with is this flavor, and how it vapes. Having just tested Chemno’s Lemon, it’s fairly probable that those compounds ARE in here as well. As a solo vape, this one is very, VERY good. Now, I’m not sure if it truly projects a Lemon Cream Wafer (cookie), but WOW, it IS very good. @ 7%, this could EASILY be considered a One Shot. It’s got plenty of lemon punch that carries through the entire vape, but at the half way point, the cookie starts to peek out, and ride all the way to the end of the vape, finishing perfectly with the lemon. My very FIRST reaction was, “Wow, super great lemon, with a cookie, and some custard notes”. Now when I say custard elements, you’re NOT getting the VC slam like from CAP VC, but it feels like it’s IN there, just hiding, peeking out from time to time. Very interesting. The cookie/bakery stays relatively linear throughout the vape as does the lemon. Sweetness might be a pinch above medium, and doesn’t come across as fatiguing. There was also a certain “thickness” that seemed to be in there, that could RESEMBLE maybe some Meringue or Marshmallow, but not high enough to identify, but the “thickness” could not be denied. Overall, this was a great, full, somewhat complex flavor, and I will run this tank dry. I think it’s soo good, that it will go on my must have list for this testing run. To my tastes, the lemon/custard elements set this apart from all of your regular suspects, i.e. CAP Lemon Meringue Pie, VT Lemon Meringue Tart, and WF Flapper Pie. For a really good (basically a One Shot) Lemon Cookie Tart (my words), you cannot go wrong with this. Vape it as is, tweak it a little bit, it’s just a win/win all the way around. Is this the SECRET ingredient in Dinner Lady’s Lemon Tart ?? Time will tell. For the purposes of this test, handily a 10/10.
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Well that’s up to you @BigDisplay. I wouldn’t want you to ship off all your sweetener, or incur expenses therein…
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Vanilla Pudding (Chemnovatic) 7% (7-3-20) – TWO LEFT on deck. When I smelled this when mixing it up, I was reminded of CAP’s VC. Vaping it, I can see why. There is indeed a fairly forward custard element in this Vanilla Pudding, so that may make you WANT it, or HATE it already. I was never a huge fan of CAP VC, but use it daily to add body in custard/creams/bakeries despite that fact. I think my FIRST take on this was more of a reduced CAP VC with some mid level vanilla, and a touch of bakery. My current go to Vanilla Pudding fav would be Flavorah’s hands down, with Vape Train’s Pudding Base as a runner up. This one wasn’t bad by any means, and was actually quite good. Did it leave me thinking “pudding”, not really. It actually could be used quite easily by not CAP VC fans for a custard experience with the eggy slap to the face. All in, this could be easily used, almost like a custard, a mixer, and as a baser for a pudding, but not sure if for my tastes, I’d leave it AS a pudding. Sweetness was below mid level, no overt eggy-ness, but still with very CAP VC like qualities. Didn’t seem to be pushing the ceiling on this @ 7%, and was nicely full, and almost rich at this testing weight. Everyone seems to have a different take on “puddings”, so your mileage will vary, and although pretty good as a custard like bakery flav., not feeling the super pudding here. Good enough to place at a 7/10.
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Really not a problem, i just make a bottle for you 
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If you insist @BigDisplay. I don’t think I have EVER reviewed a Sweetener before. Looks like it’ll be a FIRST for me. I appreciate it.
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Very wonderful review of the LCW…I didn’t really care to try it, b/c lemons make out for a pretty damn good vape juice made various ways so I wasn’t worried about it, but after a review like this???.. I gotta get this & try!!!
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Well i trusted your reviews and bought grape, smells lovely and made a few mixes up with it. Personally only tried two, Lemon Cream Wafer which I really like and there Lemon, but only used it at 2% before, maybe need to go higher in mixes as not thought much of it myself.
Main criticism of CNV would have to be they are pretty weak though it seems. Ive started pushing Lemon Cream Wafer up to 7% in mixes and went with 5% on the grape after my lemon experiences. Though I am not a fan of concentrates you only use a drop or 0.25% etc as hard to use…5%+ in mixes doesnt go far
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But they can be made a lot more “mix friendly” by simply creating a dilution!
I hear you there.
There’s no way to fix that problem either.
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Agreed, I had to test them fairly high.
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I belive intested everything across the board at 3pct and was disappointed… I could tell on some ( grape ,etc) they would be useful in recipes at a higher pct…
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Donut (Chemnovatic) 6% (7-5-20) – I think we can all agree, it’s just damned impossible to come up with a really good donut flavor. If not, everyone would be doing it. We get the greasy, the yeasty, the playdoh, the fritters, etc. Interestingly enough, this one, can be added to the aforementioned. I got somewhat of a “greasy” note when mixing this up, and it continued into the vape. It honestly came across as a somewhat greasy apple fritter, with most of the apple stripped out. At no point, did I really get a donut. Some bakery, some greasy, some subtle cinnamon undertones, and almost a hint of apple. I think this would be far better suited to start a base for an apple fritter than anything else. I had hoped to send this batch of Chemnovatic out with a bang, but instead, more of a thud LOL. Not a terrible flavor, but not much of a donut. Sweetness was below mid level, and didn’t appear to be hitting the ceiling at this level. Throughout the entire vape, I kept returning to the whole, Apple Fritter with most of the apple scooped out flavorset. If you’re frittering, this might be a good place to start, but if you’re donut’ing, you may want to press on. Finishing up this Chemno run with this one at 5/10.
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Mixing rates aside, here is a comparison in flavor costs, in varying sizes from @BullCityFlavors.
**TPA:**
10 $ 1.29 0.13 / ml
30 $ 2.99 0.10 / ml
120 $ 7.49 0.06 / ml
480 $24.99 0.05 / ml
**CAP:**
10 $ 1.75 0.17 / ml
30 $ 4.00 0.13 / ml
120 $12.50 0.10 / ml
480 $46.00 0.09 / ml
**FA:**
10 $ 2.25 0.23 / ml
30 $ 5.55 0.19 / ml
120 $18.00 0.15 / ml
480 $43.20 0.09 / ml
**FLV:**
10 $ 5.90 0.59 / ml
30 $15.90 0.53 / ml
120 $35.90 0.30 / ml
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**INW:**
10 $ 2.49 0.25 / ml
30 $ 5.49 0.18 / ml
120 $16.99 0.14 / ml
480 $61.99 0.13 / ml
**VTA:**
10 $ 2.99 0.30 / ml
30 $ 6.49 0.22 / ml
120 $20.99 0.17 / ml
480 $70.99 0.15 / ml
**CMV:**
10 $ 2.99 0.30 / ml
30 $ 6.99 0.23 / ml
120 $22.99 0.19 / ml
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**OOO:**
10 $ 2.49 0.25 / ml
30 $ 4.99 0.16 / ml
120 $12.99 0.11 / ml
480 $48.99 0.10 / ml
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its not the top lemon but its the maim bakery reg chemnovatic lemon is the top note lemon i mixed the lemon cream wafer at 5% the cnv lemon at 5% 1%cnv cookie and .5% of AP and 1.5% SSweet and its so close, way closer than any clone ive tried lemon tart was my ADV for years so i got a good feel for it…lol
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like a fool i ordered the lemonwafer and not the lemon
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