Cherry Troubles

Oh, the knowledge that you and so many others have here, and the ease at which you are able to share it, far outweighs any typographical slights.

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I suggested 0.5% EM as a potential mask or toner for the redheaded stepchild that is TFA marachino cherry lol. This is an untested theory but if i were to actually build a recipe a maraschino recipe i would include other cherry flavors as well. The EM would stay 0.5% or less in order to prevent flavor from muting entirely. I recently got my hands on NV maraschino cherry and testing at 2% it shows promise. Test results will be on the NicVape thread i started soon

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i use coconut as a flavor enhancer between 0.5% and 2% depending on how strong the base mix that needs to be “fixed” is - example, if it’s a tropical mix (that has Passion Fruit, Peach, Pineapple, strong Honeydew…etc i would go up) - for creamy mixes and weaker fruits (Strawberry…i would use 0.5 or 2 drops per 10ml)
i found this by trial and error, then reading dome flavor notes and reddit posts, i found others do this too

i have coconut from HiLIQ - it is a strong flavor - but i think you can use other brands same way

recently is started using Lemon the same way - but Lemon sort of “transforms” the flavor in a different way (think of how when you’re eating something of a strong taste and you add lemon to it to mellow it) - i have Lemon II from TPA

hope this helps,

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Lemon in a Cherry thread! The two hardest flavors in the world? You’re sick, lol. Hehe, so lemon II tpa. . .does that also taste like lemon pledge sprayed on a glass of country tyme lemonade?

You know, some flavors are better eaten than vaped. I just started to think that whatever they use in the candy “cherryheads” would make a good vape, but on second thought, I think it would be just as bad as all the other cherries. So far Cherries INW is the best I have found and that aint saying much.

You may also check out Medicine Flower cherry. . .I hate to even suggest using them because I think they are lying sacks of dog crap, were proved as such beyond all manner of doubt, and gave us all the middle finger in response. My response is that they can go straight to hell and sell to whomever doesn’t care/know they’re getting boofed. . .and a big thanks to @bluenose63 for letting us all know of their BS. So use them at your own risk, go ahead and bend over if you do, and buy from ECX because at least you will get the amount stated.

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i never tasted pledge. wife uses a different brand that i adore :joy:

What MF story? seems i missed something big here… link?

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I am curious about this, from a scientific or mechanical perspective. Can anyone suggest a good read on the topic?

For a finished e-liquid:
the aroma in the bottle -does not equal-
the flavor of a drop on the tongue -does not equal-
the aroma of the un-inhaled vapor from the coil -does not equal-
the flavor of the vapor on inhale -does not equal-
the flavor of the vapor on exhale -does not equal-
the aroma of the exhaled vapor cloud.

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ive tried to explain that to people who suggest what i should make then they give me their thoughts after never mixing lol ooops sorry im talking about your statement " some rhings are better eaten than vaped " that statement is as accurate as taste is subjective

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I think that is a great topic of conversation or line of thought. However my statement was not meant to apply to any one but me, I always screw such things up when I bang out a comment. That’s my opinion (hopefully obviously). But this is a great reply nevertheless.

If you look up cupping coffee or are already familiar with it, I think a similar sort of process could be developed for e-liquid. That said (as a roaster of coffee for ten years) I think cupping is lame and inaccurate. But for vape, I think you have a lot more control and consistency in the ingredients and how they are processed. . .one of the reviewers of juice should consider developing such a method to address your questions IMO. Great reply. . . .although atty, build, and quality of the mod also affect flavor IME.

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I think most ppl are using an additional note in them bc most cherries are not very pleasant on their own as a stand alone. It really is up to you and what your tastes are. If you like oranges ( just an example) then try adding some oranges in at a lower % and blend from there add a another fruit for multi dimensional effect.

I liked someone said they liked to use Quince w/ their cherry mix. This is a great example Quince is kinda a disguising flavor when it’s paired with Apples is takes on more of an Apple then when it’s paired Pears it takes on more of a pear taste and on it’s own it’s gives the generic fruitiness however quince are known to taste like an apple/pear. Take away point from this ramble is this is a great background flavor in so many juices. I like it w/ Brown sugar and cinnamon.

Try making some smaller batches w/ 3-4 flavors 1 of the flavors being cherry and see which one you like best. This way you can build onto the recipe I wouldn’t go too high as far as %s go just try to get a feel for what flavors you like best w/ cherries.

http://producemadesimple.ca/goes-well-sweet-cherries/

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=cherry%20pairs%20well%20with

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IMHO Cherry Crush was right up there with the Maraschino cherry for nastiness. I just couldn’t make it work at all

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Totally fine, I am betting when I venture further into cherry I will find something that makes Cherry Crush taste like a joke.

Still need to try INW Cherries and MF Black, Morello, and White cherry.

I have MF White Cherry, but have yet to mix it into anything.

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I think I have some Flavorah Rainier cherry coming from somebody that had a sample and didn’t use it or didn’t care for it.

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Yeah, their bing cherry fell flat on its face when everyone found out it had coconut oil in it (I believe?..).

I really wanna find a good recipe with cherry.

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I’ve come up with a great cherry recipe, if I could just find a cherry worthy of it. That’s what I’m hoping for the Rainier. I haven’t ever published it cause it’s just not right with the cherries I’ve tried.

It’s called White Chocolate covered cherries jubilee.

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Well, I am putting in an order soon, so I am going to ask a few people and check the flavor list.

Let’s see if we can’t kill this thread.

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Your comment, although with it I personally agree, really just triggered thoughts already brewing, and observations made since my beginning to vape.

I think the dynamics at work with our senses and vaping go beyond that of food and drink, mostly because of the delivery. It is interesting, is all, and maybe understanding those dynamics better would make us better mixers.

Maybe just over thinking. :]

Also, concur with your thoughts about a need for a cupping (or other) type of method for sampling e-liquid. I would guess, though, that it already exists in various forms, but likely commercially guarded. But I don’t know a thing. Heck, I have already pondered how such a method might be developed, and I am completely new to vaping and mixing.

Anyway. Rambling. Gotta go design myself a Philly cheese steak with sautéed onion vape. Haha
Thanks for replying.

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I agree with the theory that a true fruity cherry may not translate accurately into vapor form. We may have to temper our expectations and be satisfied with delicious, even if it’s not accurate to fresh picked. Perfect example, I mentioned testing the RF cherry on a dirty coil right? Well it’s not a horrid gunky coil yet so I threw some creamy yogurt in there just to finish off this coil for good and now it tastes very much like cherry Yoplait. It’s very nice! So, maybe for some flavors we should embrace them for how they work as a vape rather than expecting them to taste like something they’re not.

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@Pentine I just got a care package and in it was Euro Amerena Cherry Smells wonderful, but then again so did the cherry extract from TPA and the Maraschino cherry. Also have the Rainier cherry from Fla. this one smells like I’d expect a cherry to taste. so I’m going to have to give both a go and see where it leads

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Have the INW Cherry/ Cherries coming in tomorrow. Will have to mix them and get back with you.

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