Coronavirus

I take it seriously. I know what I have to do to be as safe as possible and I do that. Those actions also keep everyone else I come in contact as safe as possible. The media and the gooberment can fly around, have a fit and throw shit, and that won’t change what needs to be done.

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I take is totally seriously. When it passes though over the summer, I’m not doing “social distancing” for the rest of my life or wearing PPE. These event’s aren’t common enough to warrant it. I’ll buy some face masks to keep around in case of another but I refuse to maintain “social distancing” and so should everyone else. Prepare so you have it on hand. Don’t allow it to rule your life. If we do, it makes society a lot less societal.

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What needs to be done is simple preparedness. maybe a 24 pack or 50 pack of N95 masks (or kf94, N100)… or a respirator and people shouldn’t look at you like you’re an oddball. It always boils down to “socially acceptable”. I say keep your “social eyes in your social scull and face socially front!”

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I don’t want “social distancing” to become a norm in America.

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I’m way too damn old to give a shit how people look at me. For that matter I have no problem ignoring them if the open their yap. For that matter, I don’t much care what the gooberment says or media says, I know how the thing spreads and know how to stay as safe as possible. I am honestly having no problems with this mess personally. I cut my own hair and I don’t do pedicures. I’ve been able to source everything I need.

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I can see all the stores, restaurants etc… making it standard practice

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Things cost more to make in the US because of all of those standards. If China had to meet those for their people things would cost a lot more. Also understand, the air they breathe is the same air we do.

The standards for making things entering the country should have to be met or tariffs…

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Fine by me. I don’t care to be closer than six foot from people anyway. People need room to move. Obviously masks in a restaurant make no sense. Not a lot here to get worked up about.

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They’re calling it, “the new norm”. It should be called, “the temporary norm”
Remember, humans tolerate small changes. By doing a big change in small stages, you eventually have a big change

The disease is still there. I know that. No one wants to give a direct, “yes” or “no” answer to the question:
Does hydroxychloroquine stop the disease if taken when symptoms first appear?

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The “new norm” is just a term to try to open the door for political agendas. There are many agendas fighting for that position. No telling which if any agenda will win. Stay tuned, more bullshit to come!!!

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Probably because we don’t know yet.

(There are tons of studies underway, not just that one)

Most trials won’t complete until October at the earliest :stuck_out_tongue: Most next year. Most stuff I’ve read has said it is likely to be ineffective. At least not the “wonder cure”.

Personally I’m more eager to hear about results on glutathione and NAC IV treatment. I find the thought process around it logical and compelling. Even taking NAC as a way to have lesser symptoms, should you acquire COVID-19… Also, it’s super cheap :smiley:

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Unfortunately, (oral NAC) did not really seem to help very much, in my own personal experience. :thinking:

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Australia and South Africa may give us an idea what it could be like in the northern hemisphere. However what occurs with those two countries won’t be conclusive. The northern hemisphere’s experience with the disease could be completely different.

The issue with face mask production in the US is still an issue. Either the raw materials are limited or production. Clearly something is limiting production. Testing for a treatment or vaccine will certainly take longer than manufacturing the equipment. Training people also will have to be done however even slow deliveries will be better than the current rate.

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Wow! It’s a shame it didn’t work! I hope you found something that did.

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If we don’t have something when the fall and winter arrives I was hoping there would be enough PPE for the general public to buy. 3M doesn’t produce as fast a month currently if what other countries produce a day is 2-5 times more than the US. We can’t another economical or societal shutdown.

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This novel new bovinacious approach gives a brand new meaning to the slang phrase “man cow”. :thinking:

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I just ordered 2 x 250 ml of liposomal glutathione to keep on hand, should one in the family fall ill with COVID-19 - the liposomal variant should supposedly survive in the stomach long enough to get absorbed :slight_smile:

And despite @Raven-Knightly’s own experience, I think I’ll supplement the family’s normal vitamin supplements with NAC 600 mg capsules, just to be sure :slight_smile:

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In case you haven’t seen it already, here is a (January 2018 published) “liposomal Glutathione” report:

Oral supplementation with liposomal glutathione
elevates body stores of glutathione and markers of immune function

The results of this pilot study demonstrate for the first time increased body stores of GSH after oral administration of liposomal GSH humans. Liposomal GSH appeared to be effective at two doses (500 and 1000 mg/d) and effects were seen as early as 1 week. In addition, liposomal GSH had positive effects on several GSH-related parameters including decreases in biomarkers of oxidative stress and enhancements in immune functions. Finally, liposomal GSH was highly tolerated and its administration was not associated with any signs of adverse effects. … Overall, these results provide promising rationale for the potential use of liposomal GSH to enhance antioxidant capacity and immune functions. There have been few previous reports of clinical trials with other antioxidants in healthy individuals. In fact, most have shown minimal or no effects on oxidative stress biomarkers and/or immune functions 4551. As noted above, the small size of this pilot study limits the overall representativeness of the findings to other healthy or diseased populations. Study design did not use a placebo control.

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Inadeqate Glutathione stores in Liver are most likely to exist in older (as in over 50 years old) people (you look to be perhaps somewhat younger than that to me), and/or following physical exertions, systemic inflammatory states, or large regular doses of Acetaminophen. Plasma half-life of NAC is ~6 Hours; elimination is almost entirely renal (via Kidneys). Be aware that a (tiny) percentage of people have a genetic defect that makes them prone to develop dangerous kidney stones made of Cysteine.

If NAC seems (in you and yours) to induce some amount of an “anti-diuretic” effect, I would recommend taking the NAC dose in the morning (on empty stomach, resulting in what are likely to be better chances for absorption) and avoid taking it in the evening prior to sleeping (thus allowing for effective elimination)

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Sounds good :slight_smile: The Russian doctor observed GSH/ROS-levels in patients, although the patiens that had low GSH-levels were diabetic - Bit it’s good news that liposomal GSH will replenish the body’s reserves!

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340917045_Endogenous_deficiency_of_glutathione_as_the_most_likely_cause_of_serious_manifestations_and_death_in_patients_with_the_novel_coronavirus_infection_COVID-19_a_hypothesis_based_on_literature_data_and_ow

Oh, and @Caped_Conspirathist - MedCram’s latest talks of new results (a retrospective analysis, not a controlled trial), of hydroxychloroquine, zinc and azithromycin - the results looks like it could be effective in the early stages - until you get really sick, at which point stopping virus replication doesn’t achieve much.

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