Mixed up a small batch today and put it on a power shaker Sawz-all-style which was convenient Frothed the heck out of the juice though. Let it sit for a few minutes and got tired of waiting for it to settle ā¦ so ā¦ I thought hey why not run it through the vacuum chamber so I can get my SNV on. Worked great. Cleared it right up.
I wonder if it speeds up the :sigh: āsteepingā :lol: of it at all. Tastes good none the less. Maybe next time Iāll do a side by side comparisonā¦ or notā¦ Thoughts?
Yes. Is said vacuum chamber store-bought or something you made?
Also, it sounds like an interesting idea as a means of āspeed-steepingā without the use of heat. Iād most certainly be interested in a side by side taste test. Maybe mix up a batch, let it sit for a week or so while doing all of the pertinent usual steeping steps-cool, dark place, a shake via hand every day or two. Then mixing the same juice and using the Sawzall to VC method and go side by side in RDAās of the same chamber size and build? Just spitballing process ideas, as the idea has my brain gears whirring.(Iām under the influence of heavy meds today, so forgive my ramblings)
Frothing, in my experience does speed the steeping processā¦ It is a thorough way to blend all the ingredientsā¦It took some experiments for me, but a frothed mixture becomes steeped by about 4 to 5 days sooner than simply shakingā¦
Back when I first started mixing I was looking for all kinds of ways to mix the juiceā¦ better and faster. I pulled out my grandpaās old 1960ās milkshake maker he had given me and turned it on low speed. Well turns out, this thing on low speed is like 50,000 rpms and it literally mixed the shit out of my juice and turned it from a golden yellow color to a milky cream color in a matter of seconds. At first I thought it was a good thing! āDamn I mixed my juice so fast it broke down the atoms and made a whole new compoundā. Maybe it wasnāt exactly that extreme but I almost believe it was true! It looked milky for close to a week before it became semi- transparent again. I had made that juice plenty of times and enjoyed it. After the severe mixing though it was off. The flavors were not the same. Maybe the vaccuum thing would have helped bring it back? Is this the froth you guys are talking about?
Itās an industrial vacuum chamber. It was set up for degassing silicone mold making rubber.
Admittedly Iām not a scientist but ā¦
In a nutshell what happens is using a high speed mixerā¦ or in my caseā¦ shaker, severely agitates the glycerin introducing very many tiny bubbles making it frothy. Theoretically the heavy agitation helps speed up the combining process of the various ingredients.
Then I put it in a vacuum chamber and the pump pulls out the air.
The tiny bubbles expand and combine making the liquids level rise in the container. When the vacuum gets to around 29.9 hg the liquid āfallsā to itās actual level and is bubble free.
Alsoā¦ to my understanding, some flavors contain alcohol which may leave a bad taste (why many say letting it breath (evaporate) helps) Well with the vacuum pulling the air through and out of that frothed mix, it seems that it will speed up that process too.
Yeah Iām quite curiousā¦ Iāll get around to testing soon
Isnāt oxygen and oxidation essential for steeping? So wouldnāt removing all the air increase steeping time?
I can see why itās useful in your situation, but I donāt think itāll enhance the steeping process.
Quite some time ago - @Norseman directed me to a post on another site from Jef Ames - I think he is on the recipe site here but never seen him post on the forum @jef45ames (on recipe site). He mixed identical liquids and kept one under vacuum the entire time including steep time. Thought it was quite interesting - here is the post he made. I will try to drop him a line if anyone is interested in hearing more.
Hi Guys! Anything I can do to help make delicious DIY goodness. The whole āsteepingā is misunderstood. There is so much information, thoughts, and processes that nothing makes sense. Homogenization and degasification is what Iām trying to accomplish and itās working great! By pulling a vacuum You can boil the alcohol āand othersā You might not want in Your mix. I was testing side by side to see if and how much derogation there was to the actual flavor, surprisingly the vacuum was considerably more flavorful.
Next thing you know companies are going to start making little home vacuum kits so we can all make extra flavorful juice with this process! This could be the next big trend to hit the vape market!
anything someone can spin for a$$ If people catch on to how well this works, someone will make something for sale. Mixing without heat, exposure to oxygen, and light while degasifying? It works for Me!
Ya know after reading the thread I started thinking about it (scary thought for those that know me). I have a wine vacuum āthingyā. After you open a bottle of wine and if you donāt finish it off, there are these rubber āstoppersā you put in the bottle and a little hand pump that extracts the air inside. Sadly the stoppers fit a wine bottles opening and I really donāt have a smaller container to mix juice in that would have an opening that large.
Actually I donāt know, Iāll have to hit up one of the wine places in the next couple days and seeā¦ take a stopper with me, I have a good 4 or 5 of the stoppers (I normally donāt leave a have empty bottle in the fridge or sitting around very long).
Frothed the heck out of the juice though. Let it sit for a few minutes and got tired of waiting for it to settle ā¦ so ā¦ I thought hey why not run it through the vacuum chamber so I can get my SNV on. Worked great. Cleared it right up.
Maybe next time Iāll do a side by side comparisonā¦ or notā¦ Thoughts?
