DIY N.E.T. ~ Naturally Extracted Tobacco

I tried Pauls method but the results weren’t good. Mine tasted really nasty for some reason. I decided to try a cold steep instead and it came out perfect. Maybe it has to do with the brand of coffee. Some are stronger than others. I used Chocked full o’ nuts.

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That’s strange but glad it worked out with a cold steep. Another note in the notebook for future use! :slight_smile:

How long did u do the cold steep?

I tested it after 3 days and the flavor was a little lite for me. I give it 5 days but I guess it would depend on your taste and how strong the coffee your using is. I used Chock full o nuts and it’s pretty strong. I’ve been experimenting a little by adding TPA Sweet cream and cotton candy. It’s really tasty.

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Great, thanks :slight_smile:

What’s your process @Stixx?

  1. I get hand rolled Nicaraguan cigars (any cigars will do), better taste by quality leaves
  2. Purify them in a coffee bean grinder until the tobacco is powder.
  3. Put the powder in a bowl and mix with distilled water and alcohol.
  4. Strain the liquid (with a mesh strainer) into a metal mixing bowl (bought at a 99 cent store).
  5. Put the metal bowl into pan of hot water (low flame) until the alcohol is evaporated.
  6. Add PG to what’s left (sparingly) and pour into a bottle.

Works great!!

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That was how I did my first NET nicotine batch. Heated it down to what looked like molasses. After my wife did some reading, she forbid me to do it again without full protective gear! And she’s right! I started using premade bottled tobacco flavors and nicotine after a while and have not gone back to NET.

The article below is how I’d like to try it the next time. Seems like it would taste a lot better and I wouldn’t have to wear a clean suit and protective gear! The boil it down method is a bit volatile, since all you have left is basically the nicotine.

http://www.vapesquad.com/how-to-brew-your-own-tobacco-e-liquids/

There’s also a FB group that deals with NET…and let me tell you, they are into it like nobody’s business!

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From reading and talking to folks in the NET forums, this process is for the flavor factor of the tobacco or tea leaves. As I say, I haven’t proven this through experimentation as of yet, but it does seem that the boiling of the tobacco extract would produce a harsh flavor. Letting it sit in a cool dark spot for a month or so seems to be the way of getting a great flavor out of the tobacco.

Eventually, I’ll give it a try here soon and see how it fares.

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No boiling involved here…I evaporate the alcohol and excess water in the metal mixing bowl in a pan of hot water. I get the water to a boil, then back off the flame to low. I agree with what you said about boiling the tobacco though…it would tend to be harsh. Cough Cough!!

Ah! A double boiler kinda thing?

Exactly! …

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I found this on ECF… Looked interesting. maybe it can be of some use here.

#First comprehensive scientific analysis of NET

Discussion in ‘Liquid Extraction From Tobacco’ started by Str8vision, Mar 27, 2015.

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Moving and continuing the discussion from Senior Vapers concerning nicotine content in NET liquids…

I would hope everyone involved with NET would purchase and use a titration kit; I know I plan on doing so very soon. They aren’t that expensive.

I know that a couple of folks in the forum have experimented with testing their nicotine from certain vendors, after the nicotine scare from Nude Nicotine. There’s a thread on it somewhere on ELR…let’s not beat that dead NN horse in this thread. :tired_face::gun:

Anyway, I think it’s a good idea to know what level Nic is in your NET, just to be on the safe side; I’ll be buying a kit.

I finished the extraction phase of my first NET attempt. 15 g of RYO tobacco in a Ball canning jar, with enough PG to cover it. I gave it three 10 hour cooks, on low, in a slow cooker, with a cool down period between each cook. I strained it 4 times, through a paper coffee filter, and it’s now in day 4 of it’s steep time. I give it a daily shake.

I couldn’t resist a taste shortly after the filtering. If I had to describe the taste, it was like the taste of fresh, unlit tobacco, which makes sense to me, and I found that a positive. There was also a taste of earthy mustiness, for lack of a better description. I found that was a negative for me. I decided to put it away for a week or two, to see what that does. The plan is to use it as a flavoring, instead of a straight vape liquid. Percentages and mixes to be determined.

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That’s a great description and I have tasted the same flavors in the tea NET which I made. The earthy musty flavor of the leaves is comforting to me; those natural flavors are the ones in which I have been searching, when it comes to a tobacco vape. DIY NET will be a joyous venture for me.

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I know just what you mean, Jim. In trying not to be long winded, I may have been too harsh in saying that earthy mustiness was a negative. It’s an element that fits nicely, but I’d like to see it at about 20% of the strength that I tasted, if that makes sense. It was fighting with the tobacco taste, for top billing. If I can find a balance of about 80 - 85% tobacco / 15 - 20% earthy mustiness (according to my taste buds), I think I’ll be a very happy camper. I’m hoping the steep time will help.

One thing for sure. The NET extraction concept is a good one. It will work. I’m just starting, and I’m no chemist, but even I was able to get from A to B, with things I already had laying around the house. Anybody can do it. Like anything else new, there’s a learning curve. That’s a big part of the fun for me. Anyone thinking about it, I encourage you to try. Tobacco, tea, coffee, experiment! (Safely)

I’ve been thinking about soaking / cooking it in Jim Beam Honey Bourbon next time!

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Follow up, after 1 week steep:

Wow, what a wonderful difference a week makes. I’m actually a bit flabbergasted. It’s delicious. I’m shocked that I made something that tastes this good, on my first attempt, being a noob, and using what I’m sure would be considered a very average grade of RYO tobacco. I tested the NET extraction, by itself, in a borrowed drip set up. The tobacco / earthy mustiness flavors balanced out beautifully. What a difference a week makes. I was so impressed, I tried it in a simple recipe.

Being that I used all PG, to do the extraction. I just substituted my NET juice for the PG portion of a simple 50/50 PG / VG recipe. I added 4% Hangsen Desert Ship flavoring, and enough 36mg nicotine to get the mix to 8mg strength.

Oooh la la, what a rich, elegant twist, the NET added. The actual PG / VG mix came out to be 52 / 48, in the recipe calculator, after the nic & Desert Ship was added, but close enough for a taste test. I wasn’t sure exactly how to post the recipe into the thread, so it displayed properly. I saw the options for BBCODE, HTML, ect, but being new at this, I wasn’t sure which to use. If there’s any interest to see the recipe, let me know which format to copy & paste, and I’ll be happy to share.

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It looks like you got your wish! :wink: Your description of the finished product sounds wonderful. Kudos on a successful NET!

Thanks Jim. There’s certainly room for improvements. Better filtering, better tobacco, maybe a better extraction medium, than just PG, etc. I was hoping to find out if the DIY NET concept was within my abilities, even at a basic level, like I attempted. I’m very happy with the results.

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