I actually saw one called Strawberry Rape. It might even still be in the Dupes queue. 
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Probably some Emmer effer with a thick accent
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No matter what, We appreciate all of you and your efforts to keep things running smooth. keep up the good work, And don’t call me Shirley.
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Yep, that’s what I meant with the last part about Maple Syrup. Some names are simply not the correct ones, and I don’t even know how to report that. That is kinda inviting people to make duplicates with the correct name. Capella has no v1, like at all. They only have the originals, v2’s and v3’s. Why would they name a flavor v1 when they don’t even know there will ever be a v2. Every v1 is simply wrong. You could check Capellas own site as reference. As well as there are a couple v3’s that doesnt exist, if you check Capella as reference there has never even been a v3 for those flavors. But there are some sites pretending to sell a v3, but they are either trying to scam you or dont know what they are talking about. Capella has only 2 different v3’s, “CHOCOLATE FUDGE BROWNIE” and “LEMON MERINGUE PIE”, the rest isn’t even duplicates, they are purely fiction.
Honestly, ELR is a really great site for everything but this, its completely lacking in this department. Just such a simple thing as removing flavors with 0 recipes would greatly improve the flavor list by removing like 1/5 of all wrong flavors.
“DELETE FROM Flavors WHERE Recipes=0;”
And bam, twice as good already.
But don’t get me wrong, I understand it would take a long time to clean it up. It took a long time to get to this point. But I bet people are willing to help. If you just go through my reports and approve/decline them ill get right back to you with 300 new. As long as we report more than are created daily the flavor list will be cleaned up sooner or later.
I could even make new flavors with the correct name and report them as the original, but not sure how much attention that would get from you mods, if you saw an “original” with 1 recipe compared to the duplicate with 2k recipes I feel you would deny that duplicate without second thoughts.
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So i have given this some thought, while i cannot do what you suggest there is something i think i can do. I could starting merging nonsensical flavors that have zero recipe into one NULL name. That there is the extent of my powers on that side. Im not saying i will be able to do them all but i can at least put some kind of dent in it.
There are also so many bad flavor names that have one recipe and many of them are private from a decade ago many of the users havent published a recipe in years.
I made a post about some of the changes ive made overnight, Made a lot of changes to flavor names
@TorturedZen What is your opinion on this?
EDIT: I did see a few v3 CAPs but they mostly had a recipe associated with them already so i cant merge but i did send a message to one of the people using them in their mixes, on one of their private recipes.
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It sounds logical if you can make it happen. You might want to start with ‘test run’ just to ensure there would be no unforeseen ramifications. Other than that, I don’t have sufficient enough knowledge of the behind-the-scenes merge process to offer an intelligent opinion.
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Sounds like a good start for sure! I see there is a flavor called “NULL” with 4 recipes, is this the one your talking about? Or do you mean null as in literally no value? If you mean this “NULL” then I could help and just dupe check every non used flavor. Shouldn’t be to problematic.
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Ughh its a mess
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I just tried some stuff from my side, don’t know if I’m helping you or just making a bigger mess.
I cant find the “NULL” flavor while having other flavor houses filtered, so I made 5 new “NULL” flavors:
NULL (CAP)
NULL (TPA)
NULL (Inawera)
NULL (FW)
NULL (WF)
Then I reported alla flavors with 0 recipes in each individual flavor house
CAP, 372
TPA, 300(There were more but the site couldn’t handle a bigger request)
Inawera, 252
FW, 319
WF, 168
Finally I reported these 5 null-flavors as dupes of the old “NULL” flavor.
Is that something you can work with? Then you don’t have to do all the work, you can just double check those I report and we split the workload a bit.
There is however one issue I found, when reporting these flavors, the site tells me like “372 duplicates were reported” but when I check my report it maxes out at 36. I don’t know if that means the max report limit is 36 or the max display limit is 36.
Either way if this works for you I can keep reporting all the non-recipe-flavors, I might need to modify my script to report them in batches of 36 instead of 300 depending on if its a display limit or a reporting limit.
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I reckon we will see. After all the changes i made this weekend im going to stop for now to see if anyone reports any screw ups. Think im done for a few days, spending 8 hours on all that burned me out a bit, now its time to mix.
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Yea I get what you mean, pseudo automatic way is probably the best way to go. Still have to be manually double checked by you mods though I guess.
I used this little snippet to check all boxes for flavors in the list with 0 recipes:
var table = document.getElementById(“dupeTable”);
for (let i = 1; i <= 300; i++) {
if (table.rows[i].cells[3].innerHTML.replace(/^\s+|\s+$/g, ‘’) < 1) {
table.rows[i].cells[1].children[0].checked = true;
}
}
Don’t know how applicable it is on your side though. But maybe some other guys here wanna clean up their flavor houses, but for those guys I don’t know what happens when you report more than 36 dupes, if the rest is just discarded or if there are too many to be displayed in your list.
For more future plans, have you had any thoughts about a democratic way of handling it? Instead of you mods doing all the final works, base the final judgement un amount of people reporting etc? I guess i 20 people reports the same duplicates it most likely is a duplicate and you guys don’t have to cross reference the whole ordeal? Or maybe vote on reports etc? Seems like being a single mod for thousands of people reporting you get a lot of work on your table which probably burns you out a lot and become a bit of a bottle neck?
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I like to say this real quick as other folks need some recognition. This has been attempted before but several of us, @JoJo @Sprkslfly, me and i dont know who else. And although @TorturedZen cant change anything over there he is the reason why it isnt much much worse.
Here is what is going to happen, it happens every time. Ill keep going until the burnout and the burnout isnt just about staring at the screen all day. The burnout happens when all you have done is screwed up again, and it will be. Friday i fixed a bunch of CAP flavors, already today half of them have dupes.
Lars wanted a site that was easy to use for anyone. That comes with some obvious downsides. And i agree with his thoughts on it, while locking the flavor list might seems like a great idea there just arent enough people left to have an approval system.
So ill plug along until it hits me that everything is jacked again.
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you guys better shadow ban this dude, he’s trying to steal your job.
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Yea I don’t doubt, but imagine the state if those people did nothing? There are 190k flavors, it will take a lot of effort to clean it all up, but just a single dupe removed is better than none right? Also all these flavor houses got their own sites with lists of the correct name, correct versions etc, its hard to screw up using that as reference.
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As I briefly mentioned in my reply above, I have duplicate names sitting in the queue since June 5, 2019. The number of entries submitted is 2,377. I have no idea how many entries have been submitted by other users, or how long they have been just sitting there in the queue. That should be taken into account as well.
But I think the focus needs be on taking care of everything that’s back-logged first… do the DB merge (as painstaking as it is) and when all is complete go from there. Flavor names with 0 recipes attached is still a problem, but not so much when compared to all the names in active use.
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That’s because when a user does a flavor name search the results do not return in a sorted (high/low recipes) format. They select whatever comes up first usually, instead of selecting based on number of recipes that name is attached to. It’s rare that a name with 0 recipes is ever selected so they go with the next best one.
If anything, the default search results should be hard coded to return the most recipes for that name every time! And most users are unaware that a manual sort has to be performed or how to do it.
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Absolutely, there is probably as many duplicated reports as duplicated flavors, giving a lot of people a lot of extra work which would indeed burn them out.
Think mods should focus on going through those indeed, we plebs can focus on reporting the duplicates. Spread the workload a bit.
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Plebes? Why I oughta… 
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