Favor has been fulfilled! Thank you all so much! 😊

[Dan_the_Man]

@anon28032772

What you see on videos isn’t always representative of reality because not all cameras capture heat the same way. It often looks brighter than it is in reality.

Very true.

[delltrapp]

If you spaced the coil, you dont need to dry burn it before wicking. If you have to dry burn it, use a lower wattage, maybe 5-10w in short bursts, maybe about 1-3 seconds each time. Just enough to make it glow.

[authormichellehughes]

What are you still lacking?

[Wombatred26]

@Dan_the_Man

what kind of wire are you using?

26ga 360L ss or whatever the recommended type of single strand at 26ga. I followed SprksFly’s recommendations exactly, so I thought…

Edit: 316L 24ga

@anon28032772

just a little glow is more than good enough

I don’t mean that I let it glow for twenty seconds, lol. I didn’t follow the YouTube video THAT exactly haha. Sparksfly explained that to me, pretty well. I only held it long enough for it to glow a bit orange, not like bright-bright orange! Only about 3 seconds. Just long enough to see it worked.

@authormichellehughes

What are you still lacking?

Thank you, sweet Michelle, but I’m all set! The guys got me taken care of, last night. Much appreciated, though.

[Sprkslfly]

@Wombatred26

26ga 360L ss or whatever

She means 316

@Wombatred26

I only held it long enough for it to glow a bit orange, not like bright-bright orange! Only about 3 seconds

Power is key (remember, no more than 10w or so). The smaller the wire, the less power.
I mentioned I use 10-12w, but that was also in relation to my use of dual fused core claptons, so @delltrapp’s recommendation of 5-10 should be perfect.

The other thing you might not have understood about the videos is that you glow it once (to see where the hot-spots are), then strum the coil to help eliminate the hot-spots (as it’s cooling, NOT while power is being applied). Then glow again briefly. Repeat (until everything glows evenly, at the same time.)

Again, as mentioned above, with using a spaced coil, there really is no need for glowing a coil (unless the wire is dirty). Just wick it and go.

If you are ending up with a burnt coil (meaning physically broken), then it’s either too much power (most frequent I’d bet), or a defect in the wire (rarer I’d imagine, but not impossible with cheap wire). Could also be damage to the wire I guess (like a kink/hard crease that rendered a weak point), but that should be ultra rare.

[Wombatred26]

@Sprkslfly

If you are ending up with a burnt coil (meaning physically broken), then it’s either too much power

That is very possible. I left it set at 30w as you suggested when we chatted about it, before I got my coil wire.

What would cause the flavor and cloud to be really weak compared to my AIO device¿? (When my coils DO work right, I mean)

I really didn’t want to bring that up cause it makes me sound like a whiner but I really want to know if a different coil, atomizer, wick material, etc would make that better…?

I’ve tried 35-38 watts. Would a LOWER wattage be better for more flavor/cloud? I mean honestly cloud I couldn’t care less about but FLAVOR… It’s pretty much nothing with it…

[Sprkslfly]

Everything about atties vary. Some do clouds and shit flavor. Some do great flavor and practically no cloud. Some are great at both, some horrible at both.

We need to get you up to speed with the basics first before you can start to assess where you are with the Ekee atty vs the AVP vs the atty on the broke button jobby.

Once you get a working coil/setup… Then I’d start looking into the other things.

[Wombatred26]

heavy sigh

There’s so much to learn!!

JK when I jump into new things, I jump in with both feet. LOL. I’ve been reading everything I can to figure out what I’m doing wrong. I’ve tried more wicking, less, I’ve tried dual coils, higher wattage, slightly lower wattage (27w), adding more concentrate to my e-liquid, uuuuugh!!

I think I’m starting to sound like @Caped_Conspirathist, only about attys…lol JK Doug…lol we love you!

[anon70102222]

@Wombatred26

JK Doug…lol we love you!

Assumes facts not in evidence

[fidalgo_vapes]

I didn’t get much from the AVP , it more of a MTL device than A DL …I just couldn’t get it to perform as well as others …IMO/ E it probably isnt the best thing to learn with …Just my .02

[Wombatred26]

@anon70102222

Assumes facts not in evidence

If we didn’t, so many people wouldn’t still be working so hard to get him on the right path…right?

[Caped_Conspirathist]

@Wombatred26
Nahh… no worries… You know what your doing. I’m lucky to know my name after 4 hrs trying to get a mix right!!!

[Caped_Conspirathist]

@Wombatred26

And thank god you guys do!!! I’d still be trying to figure out why the little bottles taste so nasty when I taste a drop off my finger!!! (yeah… I’ve done that… don’t judge and don’t spit your drink out laughing)

[Lostmarbles]

Is there any possibility that your coil is touching the bottom of the deck or the sides? Maybe a loose piece of wire is floating around in the deck? Are your leads loose? Aside from high wattage those are the only things I can think of that would bust a 24g wire while dry firing. It really sounds like a weird short somewhere. This is a stumper.

[Wombatred26]

@Lostmarbles

Is there any possibility that your coil is touching the bottom of the deck or the sides?

I go around and around three or four times to make CERTAIN it’s not touching anywhere it shouldn’t, @Lostmarbles…

@Lostmarbles

Maybe a loose piece of wire is floating around in the deck? Are your leads loose?

I also have checked that everything is in it’s proper place and there isn’t anything where it shouldn’t be…

I think it’s the wattage, even though it’s only 30w it may just be too much. It could also be cause it may be cheap wire. I got it offa Amazon so it’s questionable at best…

Who knows. When I have the extra cash, I’ll just get one of those wheels of premade coils to try. Probably on the first!

[anon28032772]

Instead of throwing more money at it without knowing what the issue is, I’d suggest you try recommendations from people first and if all else fails, why not build a coil on a live stream (twitch.tv or skype or whatever) and have one or more of us watch to see what’s going wrong.
I won’t say it’s impossible that it’s a faulty wire but my suspicion is still a beginner’s mistake. If you do the same with other coils, the same can happen.
For any wire to burn through it gets orange, then red, then white and only then it snaps. You did say it didn’t glow that bright so there’s a mix of confusing messages and missing info. That’s why I recommend doing something like a live session to get you up to speed as soon as possible without spending more money than needed.

[Wombatred26]

I get what you are saying but honestly I don’t like using things like Skype or the like… I’m not comfortable with it.

I’ll get a little cheap thing of premades, try it and see what happens.

If it doesn’t work, I’ll have the hubs record me while I make my coil and test it.

I’ll then try to share it, somehow, on here… I’ll figure out a way.

Again, I’m pretty sure it’s because the wattage may be too high at 30w but I don’t know until I try it lower, at say 15w or 20w.

I’ll try that with what I’ve got and go from there.

I appreciate all of the advice I’m getting from everyone and honestly I AM paying attention. Truly I am.

I’m camera shy and not comfortable with video chat with near strangers, regardless of how kind everyone has been. I don’t even like video chatting with my sister!!

I hope you all understand. It’s a part of my disability issues and it is very difficult to overcome. I suffer from severe social anxiety.

The almost anonymous way I can post on here allows me to interact with you guys without causing me the distress I would have from being in a physical room with you guys.

Does that make sense…? I mean I KNOW it doesn’t make sense to someone without the issues I have but I hope I’ve explained it well enough to be understood…

[anon28032772]

@Wombatred26

I don’t like using things like Skype or the like… I’m not comfortable with it.

I totally get what you mean, I’m exactly the same in that way. But please consider options like e.g. some reviewers do. All that’s needed is a view on on your atty, you don’t need to put your face, home, pets or anything identifiable on video (or even audio). Technology can do a lot these days, let it work for you

If not, pictures can help a whole lot but copying/pasting/editing might be a lot more work to get the same result. No pressure at all though, it was just a suggestion because an experienced builder might see in 2 minutes what’s going wrong while it could take hours or days to find out for yourself.

@Wombatred26

I’m pretty sure it’s because the wattage may be too high at 30w but I don’t know until I try it lower, at say 15w or 20w.

You’re pretty right about that, but wattage (power) and the resistance of your coil go hand in hand. Right now, all I’ve seen you mention is the amount of power. Details matter, a lot.
If your coil burns through at 30W, I wouldn’t even be starting at 15W, more like 5. If it doesn’t glow, bump up to 10W and slowly build up. Exactly the same way you treat tests with flavor concentrates you don’t know, start low and go slow.

@Wombatred26

I don’t even like video chatting with my sister!!

Hehe, I don’t even do it with my wife but like I said, all anyone needs to see is your atty and coil. No need to be in any video or photo yourself. But that aside, people here that are willing to help are not the ones that are judgemental or the freaks that would stalk you. They’re only interested in sorting you out, like you’ve seen with the donations. The ones you’re shy or afraid of are not the type that would put any time or effort in you We have our differences as you will have seen in several threads, just like all people do, but regardless of that, this is a very good and supportive community that you can depend on.

[Dan_the_Man]

I see y’all don’t really need my help. I knew you had it @Sprkslfly.

Good advice all around. I am curious now so I’ll keep an eye out.

[Wombatred26]

I’ll keep y’all informed as I go. Right now, I dont have the extra funds to buy premade coils. I’ll get 'em on the first. No matter what, imma do that… LOL I’ll give the 5w then bump up a try.

I appreciate the understanding