Wow what a great reply thank you so much, I was so worried and confused at what I should buy or shouldn’t. But I feel now that it’s really going to be a good start to buy FW and see how things go I can purchase most fruit flavours from Fa and TPA but not a lot of the other ones like creams, nuts etc. is there a way of searching for recipes on the data base here for concentrate brands?
Yes, there is. Just type in Flavor West into the search box. Recipes with FW flavor will display.
Watermelon and Honeydew (Nicotine Labs) if you want true flavor…FW Strawberry, Pineapple, Mango, Blackberry Natural, Raspberry Natural, Cantelope, Dragonfruit, are good…TFA Banana Cream, Blueberry wild, Blueberry Extra, Strawberry Ripe, Peach Juicy, Raspberry Ripe are good
Know what I am about to say most likely many here would consider a foul and unforgivable blending sin but, I’m gonna say it anyway. Get used to the fact that you can blend recipes with the flavors you have, or prefer most, or any other reason you have that makes you need to substitute. Many people frown at this but dog gone it, unless you are independently wealthy. you’ll be refinancing the home, car, and maybe even your children in order to afford all the flavors used on this website. Get used to the fact that you are out to please you and if you sub a flavor with something you have and it tastes good, well there is nothing wrong with that. Those who only follow recipes often do not go on to create their own juice flavors. This severely limits their ability to create. Those who learn their flavors, learn to substitute, are bold enough to make changes, go on to create their own unique and tasty juices. Never EVER be afraid to be bold with blending, just do your homework on pairing and do it safely with the nic…
PS with the search, if you search only by a company you are severely cutting the amount of recipes you will see. It’s best not to limit by company. For that matter searching recipes for STRAWBERRY will display 10-20 times as many recipes as searching STRAWBERRY (INW) for instance. Don’t limit yourself…
Again, I find excellent info from Ringling.
I just copied and pasted a big part of this post into a little txt file I have going to keep up with what to and not to buy.
I am buying stuff up as quick as I can, but trying, trying real hard to get quality stuff. Have had to get some HW mixing stuff too, making my own mixing table, and going to try a building a DIY sonic bath, I have time, being retired, I look for stuff to do, and this vaping stuff is both fun and keeping me off the nasties.
Yeah, I know that taste are subjective, but some people here are offering great advice, and you are one that I am really paying attention to.
I forgot to order some VG dilutant the other day, but got some on the way, so by this weekend I can start mixing some juice.
Mainly starting with Coffee, a few fruits, and a couple of deserts types, the rest are all additives. So far my mixing experience has been mixing different off the shelf ejuices. And there are a couple that I was unable to vape, Pineapple for one, but with a little Vanilla custard, or V Ice Cream, I have salvaged those.
But thanks again for the info,
*** bowing and chanting “I am not worthy, I am not worth” Makes me feel like Garth…
With coffees, most are real strong. Start at 1-2% then add what you like. Vanilla, Hazelnut, Caramel, Marshmallow, Good luck…
Also I edited the last post, hope you do not miss the PS
RGR the PS.
Yeah, I do not mind substituting, especially if I am pretty sure that the “strawberries” I have on hand are pretty much the best you can get. I really havent heard much about bad SBs, but some flavors being discribed as Cat piss, yeah, I am pretty sure I wont buy, and wont end up substituting with those bad flavors.
Could you look at my Flavor stash and tell me if you think I have made any mistakes, honestly, I trust your opinion, and if I need to either get a different version or type ,
I do know that I still need Koolada, other sweetners than cotton candy and custard, oh and a minty menthol, but any other suggestions you might have …
I really went for coffee to start, I opened up that Dark Bean Espresso, a suggestion from JoJo and Amy2, and I KNOW that it will be the base of my ADV, that is why a lot of my flavors are what I think will go with coffee.
******Vanilla, Hazelnut, Caramel, Marshmallow, Good luck… ******
All in my Flavor Stash already, along with Tiramissu, I may be wrong about, but I will see,
Will let you go, I can chat all day and I type about 80 WPM, so my post seem to go on and on … Sorry bout that.
Decide for yourself, but FlavorWest is the company which lied about their products containing chemicals carrying inhalation warnings (acetoin, diacetyl, etc.). Other companies are forthcoming about the content of their flavors, either revealing and advising about flavors containing those chemicals (TPA) or testing and excluding questionable products (FlavorArt).
My opinion is that most of FW is crap. All citrus flavours taste like aweful medicine, most of fruits are candy-like, etc. Some are good though, I do really like their strawberry, red licorice and banana flavours. But I rarely use them because you need 15-20% of them in the mix, this is insane and makes them pretty exprensive. I prefer using FA, TFA and Molinberry.
Thanks for the info, and yeah I can and will decide for myself.
But first, so that I can make an intelligent and informed decision …
can you provide a link to where they denied it and lied about it ?
FW isn’t total crap but a lot are. You have to pick and choose with FW. Some flavors are the best you can find… but there are few of them. TPA is by far the most popular, but they have some crap flavors too. By far FA has the best flavors. In my opinion better flavorings add up to better eliquid. Seek out several opinions and make informed choices. Maybe you won’t end up up with as many crap flavorings as me.
Here’s a thread I found on ECF on Flavor West. Sometimes it pays venture out for more opinions.
Here is a list of flavors by popularity on ELR. You can judge for yourself. The FA should rank higher. Any FW you see on this list should be pretty good.
I don’t know what has happen because back when I first started using FW approximately 1 1/2 years ago they had a complete list of the flavoring ingredients. They had no problem then telling people their flavoring contained Acetoin. In fact they reported to all that nearly all flavoring had at least trace amounts of Acetoin. That is far from saying that their flavors do not contain Acetoin. I am guessing that there have been mistakes possibly but I truly feel that they lied is a Overstatement. Putting a glorified office worker on the spot who is not a chemist will produce nothing but mistakes…
Thank you heaps this has really helped me
Regarding documentation of misleading and false statements by FW, I really didn’t intend to crash the party without facts to back it up. I’ll do my best to post back with links.
As far as FW being crap, quite the contrary in the case of many of their flavors. I don’t think any company can beat their Butter Pecan, f’rinstance. Nature’s Flavors comes close, but diacetyl and subs make flavors taste really good! That’s why they’re in there and were so in other brands until it was discovered that, despite being generally considered safe for food items, they weren’t recommended to inhale. Popcorn, Kahlua & Cream, Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, Caramel Candy, Whipped Cream, Marshmallow, Butterscotch, Peanut Butter and many other FW flavors contain these additives. Ues, decode for your self. There are alternatives which have been developed to ring your taste bud bells without the bad chems. The majority of FW flavors aren’t crap from a taste standpoint.
I would be very happy to know what these alternatives are because any alternative that I have been made aware of has been thought to be just as bad or possibly even worst…
I think for my purposes it has been hit or miss and just maybe I am the one making the " misses " FW for the most part offers very good flavors for a very good price. The % is on the higher end and so most ppl would think we’ll you’ll use twice as much leading you to buy again sooner but that hasn’t been the case with me anyhow ( I try and keep stocked up w/ a multiple of flavors that way I don’t rely heavily on one source )
FW has been surprisingly good with its fruit and creams. But the ratio is very wavering like a strawberry may be great at 4-6% then passion fruit 1-3% so do know it will be a little bit of a challenge finding the perfect ratio for each one. Although this is with every vendor really Bc even though there is a suggested ratio for each vendor the important part is if it taste good to you.
Yes, agreed. People are under the impression that all FW flavors are weak and require tons of flavor in the mix. They obviously have not tried any of the Natural Fruit line. For instance the Raspberry Natural I can not use any more than 4% in a mix. If you use FW, practice makes perfect for sure…
It would be a sad day at our house if we ran out of FW butterscotch or sweet cream! My wife would cry and then I’d be in the doghouse for not making sure my supplies were up to snuff! If Momma’s happy, everybody is happy.
AMEN!!!
Thank you, am about to round out my flavor stock with 1 last purchase for this month, now I know where I will be getting my Butterscotch.
How about their blueberry, that is on my short list too, but had not decided on which vendor.
We’ve tried them ALL and FW butterscotch wins hands down! It is the secret to a great “Deadly Sin” mix.
With the Blueberry I prefer TFA Blueberry Wild or the Blueberry Extra. FWs seems more like a Blueberry Candy. Banana Cream from TFA. Cherry, no go no matter the company for me.
FW Strawberry, Cantelope, Blackberry Natural, Lemonade, Natural Mango, hazelnut, Peach, Pear to name a few.
FW Sweet cream is better than TFA, agreed. I prefer FW Bavarian Cream over both.
I say this sitting on my hands and biting my lip, Watermelon and Honeydew from Nicotine Labs