FLAVRZ Flavors Reviewed by SessionDrummer -- TESTING NOW!

So you won’t believe me when I say musk sticks are best dipped in Vegemite :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Portello is another one I tried to make but never found the right concentrates to get it right, so that interests me. It is an old school flavour that you don’t see much anymore.

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Hehe, I’m not sure what to say. :stuck_out_tongue:

It’s going to be another NEW one for me, so I’m anxious to try it.

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Blackcurrant (FLAVRZ) 5% / 7.5% (4-9-23) – I could tell this one was different than all of the other Blackcurrants I’d tested to date, and in an interesting way. This presented as a very complex darker berry-ish flavor, with multiple berries, and a nice, slightly boozy grape undertone. When I say berry-ish, it’s for lack of better words, as it did have the very expected tart finish which screamed “currant”. It ranged from modest darker notes, followed up by a very generous helping of mid notes, and some modest bright, and tarty notes on the finish. It centered around the mid notes, but had just enough of the low and highs to help it into complex-if-ication. After two full testers, it still wandered around with sometimes more berries, other times, more of the grape, but it was always finished by the tartness. At 5% it was good, but (repeating), felt like it needed a little push, and 7.5% did just that. It was about 2 ticks above mid level sweet, but the tart finish kept that in check, and there were not off-notes, OR florals to be found. After struggling to try and figure out what made it so unique, I had to settle on the mid-level notes, which were higher in the mix, and kept it fully centered. A very good darker berry-ish medley with grape-y undertones, and a nice tart finish that kept it squarely in the “currant” camp. VERY hard to nit-pick this one, and leaving it at 9.5/10.

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Black Tea (FLAVRZ) 5% (4-9-23) – Having never tested a straight black tea before, but only sweet teas, I was curious how this one would unfold. Smelled very black tea-like in the bottle, and vaping it, continued that, BUT, only about 70% of the way there. It smelled like a black tea, and had SOME aspects of it, and it even had the almost dryness that you got after actually drinking some, BUT, there was just something missing. It was actually far sweeter than I had expected, at just below mid-level sweet, and because it was not billed AS a sweet tea, that surprised me. The dryness on the finish was what really tried to push this one to authentic, and despite the nuances OF a black tea, it was almost more of a Black Tea Soda, with reduced sweetness from what sodas normally are. It wasn’t sweet enough to be a sweet tea, and there WERE really good black tea notes coming from it, but two testers in, I just couldn’t define it, as “All The Way There”. No off notes, and nothing out of place, it just needed to get that LAST 30% of the way there. It was a hard one to define, judge, and articulate for sure, and it MAY just get you that little Black Tea push you were looking for. It felt fair @ 7/10.

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Blueberry (FLAVRZ) 5% / 8% (4-9-23) – This flavor presented me with a pair of profiles on the first taste, and it stayed with me throughout. I got a fairly natural Blueberry, tempered with equal parts, Sweet, and Tart. I noticed this on the first taste @ 5%, and after half a tank I decided to increase it to 8%, and the delicious, natural blueberry increased, BUT, so did the S&T. It was a few ticks above mid-level sweet, yet it still didn’t taste “candied”. At the higher percentage, I did get a nice increase OF the blueberry, and at times I could almost get some of the skin (tart), and the white fleshy part of the fruit. I got the desired slight funky-ness, and a slight fermented punch from the BB, and it was really good. At times however, I wished the S&T were less pronounced, so I could better enjoy the natural BB. For a test, I went even HIGHER, JUST to see if it would get floral, or squirrel-y, to about 12% and it did NOT. No soap, no perfume, just MORE of the same. No off-notes could be found, and about the only take-offs would be for the fairly present Sweet and Tart notes, that at times I felt overshadowed the really good BB. Scoring this was complex because I DO love a sweet and tart blueberry, but this felt solidly placed at 7.0/10.

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Blue Raspberry (FLAVRZ) 3% / 6% / 7.5% (4-9-23) – Every time I review a Blue Raspberry, I always link to the same where did it come from story and it’s STILL interesting. Darren from FLAVRZ warned me this one was a little stronger so I started out at 3%, and it had ALL of what you needed in a blue raspberry, but it felt like (you guessed it), it needed some BAMM. Pushed it up to 6% and it started to fill out nicely, and I only bumped to 7.5% just to see if it got squirrel-y, and it didn’t. I spent most of the test on 6%, and it had the almost perfect (does anyone even REALLY know what it is ??) flavor. I never can tell if there is/was actually RB in there or not, but the flavor, when done right, is unmistakable. Full, tarty, and just sweet enough without being overpowering, and non-fatiguing. After 2 full testers, my opinion(s) hadn’t changed, as this was a good BRB, and it just might bring you back to your Icee days. It was CLEAR in the bottle, JUST to be clear, hehe. The finish was more than just tart-y, it almost had a twang to it, and it really sealed the deal at the end. It tasted “blue” if that’s really a thing, and it tasted good doing it. Even when pushed higher, it showed no signs of folding, no florals, soaps, perfumes, etc. All in, it was a great representation of a BRB. After I get through these 80 flavors AND 11 one-shots, I may mix this up with some fairy floss to see if it helps or hurts. As it stood at 6%, with no real nitpicks, it felt solid @ 9.0/10.

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Boysenberry (FLAVRZ) 5% / 7.5% (4-9-23) – When you ask most people, many will think Boysenberries are interchangeable with Blackberries, but not exactly. This one from FLAVRZ continued the clean (and clear in the bottle) trend that was becoming obvious now. It presented as a VERY clean, and accurate Boysenberry with plenty of the darker berry tones, along with some bright notes, and slightly tart finish. I started out at 5%, and increased it to 7.5% to see how it improved, and it became fuller and tastier. It felt much better at the higher weight, and more engrossing as a solo. No florals, perfumes, or soapy notes were to be had, nor any off-notes. Sweetness was about mid-level, and it suited this one fine. Because Boysenberries are crossed from 3 different berries, exactly nailing down particular aspects can be hard, but needless to say, it was pretty spot on. I had to fight the urge to toss this one into a custard/pudding to see how it would fare, but I’ll do that later. Fresh, clean, accurate, with just enough tart to finish it off. This one would def. handle your darker berry needs, and then some. Freshly placing this one high due to little to no take-offs @ 9.6/10.

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Sounds like that Boysenberry Cheesecake ONE SHOT is looking tempting :blush: may have to ripen it out for 72 hours. :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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Hehe @Jetz I may have to JUST do that. I’m always concerned about getting SIDE-tracked once I start a series, but …

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May happen when you get to the Mulberry.

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Butterscotch (FLAVRZ) 5% /8% (4-11-23) – Sans all of the dirty DAAP’s, I was again interested to see how FLAVRZ pulled off a known “offender” for these. Interestingly enough, this was a different, and “clean” butterscotch. It took me two tanks to really understand what was happening. Although not saturated in dikatone laiden butter heavy-ness, it did impart some buttery mouthfeel. It was a lighter BS, and some of the darker, almost “burnt” notes that many others had, were absent from this one. It centered, squarely on the mid notes of a BS, with a few highs. When testing this at 5% (again), decided to boost it to 8% and it did become much fuller. Semi-rich, but without the heavy butter overtones. Again, it wasn’t NOT buttery, just cleaner, and not as overtly. With most of the burnt notes (darker) it really changed what a BS could be, and depending on your needs/uses could work out perfectly. No off-notes at either testing weight, and it was about mid-level sweet at both as well. For a cleaner, not so heavily over-buttered BS, with no burnt notes, this one was a really interesting one to get into. It felt solid @ 8.5/10.

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Caramel (FLAVRZ) 5% / 8% (4-11-23) – This one shared many of the same nuances as the Butterscotch before it, WITH one big difference. It almost tasted like more of a DDL (Dulce De Leche) than a Caramel. There was/were some nice caramel notes/tones in there, but there was something in there, almost like a non-descript bakery that added weight to it, and it almost did favor a DDL over a caramel. At 5% it felt a little thin, and boosting it to 8% cleared THAT right up, and it fattened up nicely. No overt buttery tones, but it had an rich mouthfeel throughout. Much like the Butterscotch, it was a cleaner flavor with no burnt notes, and it actually had more darker tones/notes than the BS did. No off-notes at either strength, and it was about mid-level sweet. It was caramel-y, but was it a caramel ?? To my tastes, it just really tasted like a melding OF a Carmel, AND a DDL. No cinnamon notes, and no overt dairy notes, just a good smooth caramel tempered with a DDL. Two tanks later, I had the same assessment. Scoring this will be tricky as it was very good, but some minor take-offs, as I couldn’t classify it as a “pure” caramel. As a caramel-y DDL I would rate it high at a 9/10, but as a pure caramel I would probably kick it down to a 7/10. It was an INTERESTING flavor, and you probably DON’T have one like it on your shelves, and the only thing that stopped me, was when the tester bottle ran empty…

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Interesting take on Caramel, traditionally Caramel will not have any cinnamon notes as it is not cooked or made with them. Caramel (in STRALIA mate!) :slight_smile: like Dulce De Leche (Europe) is traditionally made at home or commercially by cooking out condensed milk. Where a Butterscotch is sugar, butter and water also caramel can be made this way with sugar and water though tends not to be as smooth as a condensed milk caramel. Great details in the flavour review. Having eliminated all the DAAP ingredients and making the flavour concentrates atomisable safe, our caramel is the same flavour profiles as if it would be made with them. I guess its an AUSSIE Carmel :blush:

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@jetz I find that very interesting. It never ceases to amaze me how profiles (or recipes) can vary from country to country.

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Personally I unfortunately often get a burnt note off caramels and would like them to be more buttery or creamy as such.

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Great news @Gazza7, NO burnt notes !!!

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Great stuff, sd. How do you compare this with caramel dulce de leche TFA?

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@delltrapp to restate, the FLAVRZ Caramel to my tastes, was approx. 60% Caramel, and 40% DDL-ish. I’m calling it DDL-ish for lack of better description, and I never solo’d TPA’s DDL so I cannot directly compare.

@Gazza7 despite not being saturated with DAAP butter notes, it still had some good buttery-ness, AND, a fairly creamy, rich mouthfeel, if that helps at all.

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We have sent a lot of time, effort and research developing our flavour to be clean even when used At ridiculous percentages

Also you will find your coils last longer, in most cases about 2-3 times longer

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@Gazza7 thus far, this seems to be very accurate.

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