If you get out of one rabbit hole you will just fall into another one. No need to fight it, just let it happen 
5 Likes
Aint seen no light yet lol.
4 Likes
Not sure you ever will LoL
5 Likes
To be fair the darkness in here is quite good and im enjoying every second of it lol.
6 Likes
An overnight steep is plentyā¦
3 Likes
i havent used brandy but this sound great what is the story behind brandy what does it do for mixes , the reason i ask is im wondering do i get 10ml just for this recipe or is brandy a versatile flave and i get 30ml
1 Like
You certainly did. lol
(Well played I might add!)
Itās from a local St. Louis liquid maker called Gillbert & Parsons, and is called Southern Charm.
http://smokesmartllc.com/products/southern-charm-g-p-30ml?variant=8023871617
Youāll have to scroll down a bit, as the retailerās top section is very intrusive, which is a huge disconnect from the stellar service and support that their staff actually delivers. If I were going by Web presence alone, Iād probably not have stopped in there, fortunately for them (and me), it happened the other way around! I found the retail front first.
Anyways, I believe they (G&P) have changed their formula since the last bottle I bought months ago, because the first few bottles reminded me strongly of a pecan pie filling - which sounds a bit strange once you read the description, but itās what I took from it. Lol
Their last bottle is still good, but itās different. Iām assuming adjustments have been made due to the diacetyl uproarā¦ But I could be wrong, and itās just a natural progression of the artists behind it. /shrug
Anyways, I started off with the same four ingredients (namesake) and have been refining and balancing for (what seems like) forever and a day now. But yeah, Iām very happy with how mine has been developing, Very close to being done (by comparison)!!
1 Like
Pfffbt. Thereās many lights!
Theyāre those little A-HA!! moments when you find the secret missing ingredient in that batch youāve been working onā¦ The moment you get your vape mail in and crack open that new flavor and go "Oh WOW! This is IT!.. The moment you finally figure out the wicking, or coil size you need for a specific deck!
To me, itās more like an Easter egg hunt. Some of the ones you find are average paint jobs, some are incredible beauties, once in a while you stumble upon something left over from last yearās hunt and itās rotten (fortunately those are rare!), and once in a while you luck into that golden egg that you know will carry you through for a very long while to come!!
Itās all about the journey! =)
6 Likes
Beautifully worded
4 Likes
It helps bring out the Butterscotch note. Right after mixing, it will taste inherently strong of brandy but an overnight steep or two will smooth and mellow allowing the Brandy to mesh making the Butterscotch richer and flavorful. Adding a touch of Orange and Lemon support causes even a further bond that amplifies Butterscotch. The citrus flavor does need adjusting per user as Butterscotch seems to be an extremely unusual subjective flavor among us in DIY. I donāt know why, I just know what tools we can use. Some I know use Bourbon instead of Brandy and Citrus Mix instead of Orange and Lemon. Best advice I guess is to create and dial in your personal custom recipe only if you feel like chasing that Butterscotch Unicornā¦
5 Likes
Drooling on the bourbon. Hadnāt thought of that.
2 Likes
Well put. That needs to be there for all first time DIY people. Also my tastes are not your tastes.
4 Likes
Thanks for that! I asked because Iāve been working on a clone involving BS tooā¦
This is where Iām at at the momentā¦
Dillinger
Butterscotch (FW) 6.5%
Caramel (Original) (TPA) 3%
Salted Caramel (FW) 5%
Vanilla Custard v1 (CAP) 7.5%
Seems like it could be pretty similar to yours minus the Graham Cracker. After a months steep itās certainly tasty - If you were to vape this without knowing what was in it youād probably agree, but in a million years you wouldnt pick the BSā¦ you get the custard & caramelsā¦ & something else which is undefinable. Iāve just put it out of my head that its meant to be BS.
As the lead note, I presume you can taste the BS in yours? What %age BS are you using?
Iāve got a brew down at the moment (needs another week 1/2) with the BS at 8% - but prelim taste tests have just given me an extra 1.5% of āundefinableā
. More ārefining & balancingā perhaps.
1 Like
Yesā¦ nicely worded indeedā¦a good mantra!
1 Like
Yes, itās definitely present. I finally settled on 8% for the current incarnation that relies on Natural. The next try will keep numbers the same, only using the original BS. But immediately following that, Iām already thinking that the following 2 attempts will be dropped to 6% BS (one natural, one original) and then adding 2% LA BR in each, then compare.
2 Likes
You guys can keep the BS to Low percentage. I do not want a ācrappyā flavor in my mixes. Although might add a nuttiness to it.
1 Like
So doing some mixing tonight. I came across one of the flavors I had not used in a very long time. Irish Cream. Took an inhale. Has a very buttery note to it in my opinion. I mixed it with vanilla custard, vanilla bean ice cream, milk, and whipped cream (fw). If you added butterscotch to that you might have your rich and creamy butterscotch.
1 Like
If you are looking for a creamy butterscotch, then FW Butterscotch Ripple is the āoneā. That stuff at 17-18% with a 4-8 week steep is Amazing. But itās definitely a cream so it doesnāt work in all applications. That is my butterscotch crack 
3 Likes
Man, I take a day off, ride my motorcycle, come back here today & all I can say is wow!
Way more opinions than I thought Iād see, and all about as different as each person posting lol. I may end up getting both & after trying them both, maybe start trying combinations of the two, like I tend to do with strawberry, peach & creams. I really appreciate all the replies, itās what makes this place great.
-HRH-
4 Likes