Here It Is...Turbo Steep!

I am way too cheap to not vape it, luckily it is a cream so just gonna add some strawberry, maybe a little peach and voila. Mmmm, a Nectarine cream sounds good. It has got to be a year old by now, no nic so still tasty. If my friend decides to order it again he gets one of these :facepunch::bomb::skunk::hocho::firecracker:

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Ignorant ??? I mean no offense to anyone ,but how can a person condemn something they have not used??? This statement doesnt mean that everyone should go get one ( well maybe they should ) People should not judge anything until they have tried that thing…

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Yeah, I have been here since 2015, with a 2 year hiatus, and as far as I know @anon36682625 is the first person to come in and explain the steeping process in a knowledgeable fashion. I learned oxygen and nic didn’t play well shortly after I started mixing. But the info he gave above explaining it when it comes to flavors explains it so well.

There has been a lot of speculation and guessing in this hobby, and I know I have been guilty as well of plopping my guesswork in here. It is nice to FINALLY have someone explain what is really going on.

@anon36682625 should write an ejuice based science book. Hell, I’d buy that too.

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Hehe @Ed133. Here’s the facts. Oxidation can be bad. There are varying levels OF oxidation. Once you mix up a juice, and put the NIC in, it’s ALREADY oxidizing. Once you bottle up juices (with NIC) and stack them on shelves waiting to sell it to customers, it’s oxidizing sitting on the shelf.

I feel like oxidation has been VERY over hyped here. ALL of your juices are going to oxidize, the moment you put NIC in it. Air and heat WILL speed that up. This doesn’t mean JUST because your juice is in the PROCESS of oxidation that anything is wrong. Far from the point.

What could be a VERY accurate statement would be if your juice or NIC was COMPLETELY oxidized, NOW you gotta problem, IMO.

Most of us have been mixing for a VERY long time, using all kinds of methods, and we’ve been just fine (at least most of us have), and new and improved methods, tools, etc., CAN imrpove our experience, and progress HAS to progress.

I just felt that the term “oxidation” was suddenly being veiwed as almost TOXIC LOL. I have a LOT of posts STILL to read here, but I had to shoot mine in here, before reading the entire thread. Good stuff Ed.

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That’s what MOST of us do @Ed133. I sell a lot of juice, and for most of my clients, they don’t want to deal with adding NIC, one-shots, etc., so for them, I mix them up finished, and ship it out. For the few, that have their own NIC, and comfortable adding it, at the correct levels, I do ship some NIC free.

IMO, just flavors and carriers will last QUITE a bit longer than NIC-i-fied juice.

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Fucking Ooorah @LordVapor, hehe NAILED IT. “Overstock” hehe. I mean MAYBE if it was 0 NIC, but anything with NIC, ummmm, no thanks for the sales price !!!

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Yeah, when you see juice for sale, especially half off, just let the retailer throw it away. No need for you to pay to throw it away for them.

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“Heavily oxidized juice, that we couldn’t sell before it was oxidized, NOW on SUPER SALE PRICING” !!!

Ummmm no

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Doesn’t seem like anything was “abused”. The OP posted his method for “Turbo Steeping”.

LOL, don’t know about “hit pieces”, But I wonder, If I were to make a thread about how I steep juice, and/or seed steep, would THAT be a hit piece as well ??

All GC related conversations should be re-directed to the vendor thread.

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I find it rather humorous that from one post by the OP, who incidentally has not returned to comment on anything said, there have been so may comments by others trying to explain and/or justify their own thoughts and/or methodology, almost as if it were a requirement to respond.
Personally I consider that the post was actually a piss take, and that the OP is sitting there right now pissing himself laughing at the bun fight he has generated.

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Well, to be fair, hot diggity dog, it’s 2020, ANYTHING is possible at this point @Tworrs.

It’s been a while since we’ve seen Asmoday — their last post was 2 years ago.

It might take a while, but it’s OK, I can wait…

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Yes…I remember , i was lurking around and didn’t join the forum until feb 2016 …Lol i use to always get you and DarthVapor mixed up …There will always be opinions of whats what … I will always have the opinion Whatever works for someone is the best way for them to mix…

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Yeah, I was going to change my nickname a long time ago, but never did. Maybe some day I will surprise everyone.

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To those who steep their juice WITHOUT the Nicotine in it, then mix it in just prior to vaping:

Is there a noticeable difference in the flavor of the vape?.. Does your juice taste better, bolder in flavor than steeping it WITH the Nicotine mixed in?

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Juice without nic can be kept a lot longer. Adding the nic right before vaping never changed the flavor to me. Juice steeped for a month or two with nic in it could be a bit harsher, depending on what it was stored in.

Which is why I eventually switched to glass bottles with polycone sealed caps. Juice I originally stored with nic in HDPE bottles went bad after a few months. But in the glass bottles, even with nic, they lasted much longer. I also noticed juice with nic in it stored in a bottle partially filled went bad sooner than juice in full bottles because their is less surface area when the juice was filled to the neck of the bottle.

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Interesting, I have noticed that within a few months salt will start turning color in HDPE. I use a small HDPE squeeze bottle for mixing. Since that, I only put a few mills in the bottle so it won’t sit long. The bulk of the salt nic is kept in brown bottles and lasts forever… so far.

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I keep my nic in the freezer in brown glass bottles with polycone sealed caps.

HDPE leeches everything from oxygen to small animals. They are not good for storage. Ever wonder why mustard is sold in HDPE bottles, and ketchup is sold in PET bottles? Ketchup would go bad if sold in HDPE bottles. PET doesn’t leech like HDPE does. At least nowhere near as bad.

So even if you fill HDPE bottles to the top, they still leech O2 from all areas of the bottle, meaning tons of surface area for O2 absorbtion.

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Which is also why retail ejuice is sold in either PET bottles, or glass :wink:

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Appreciate that! My head was going that direction but I had no confirmation. I freeze mine as well with the same caps in bulk. I’ll pick up a couple of small pet bottles for the mixing part.

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I use the disposable pipettes for mixing. I have a small glass bottle next to my large glass bottle of nic. Both are stored in the freezer. Before I mix, I take the small glass bottle out and let it warm under warm water til it is just thin enough to work with. As soon as I am done, it goes back in the freezer.

Only when the small bottle is empty do I fill it, after rinsing away any residual nic and letting it dry completely.

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