Hot water steeping and nicotine…

Cool thanks. I’ll try them. What’s the mg that most people get?

That’s crazy. I am guessing that nicotine “flavor” is as subjective as anything else…? I’ve gotten 24mg 100% VG nic from MFS for about a year and never noticed any kind of peppery flavor. That being said, I just let my juice sit, I don’t use hot water or rice baths.

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Eff, I had planned on buying nude nic and more flavoring but now I have to wait because my bank called me about some suspicious charges on my debut card that were trying to go through. So we cancelled my card and I have to wait for my new one :confused:

For ALL online purchases i use reloadable Visa cards from Wallyworld. You should never use your debit card, a lesson we all learn eventually.

I buy 100mg/ml VG based nicotine. VG based nic is a bit harder to use but less absorption will occur if you should happen to spill it on yourself and it oxidizes at a slower rate, from what ive read.

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Good idea, just glad none of the charges went through.

Correction, my nicotine was from vice electronic cigarettes. Just read the label

Hi Jeff. I have endured the pain of buying “peppery” nicotine, and actually MOST of what I have bought (both unflavoured AND flavoured nic juice) has a peppery taste at anything over about 8mg/ml. I DO find that with time it tones down but I have been using M.F.S. nicotine (took advantage of the $50 per litre deal) and thought I would just have to endure the peppery taste.

Glory Hallelujah! I took advantage of the NudeNicotine “free sample” offer (check their website) so you can try it without making a big investment and I found that there IS a peppery taste BUT it is so much more subdued.

I am placing an order for 500ml today and will palm off the other 10 x 100 ml bottles of M.F.S. nic to someone else. Even if I have to dump it only $50 wasted, and how much did I waste on “stinkies”?

But if you have ever used Nicorette brand of gum or mouth spray, you will notice it is very peppery and tastes justs horrible. And I am sure Nicorette would use the most palatable kind of nicotine they can source.

The peppery taste is an inherent by-product of nicotine unfortunately which is dulled by all the tar and other chemicals we draw from burning tobacco.

I highly recommend Nude Nicotine, but note they are very slow to respond to any emails. They are very busy but the owner, Jake Rubenstein, (who is a formulating chemist), replied to my enquiry personally which is why I am very impressed with Nude Nicotine!

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You must be lucky, or their $50 a litre offer is for inferior grade nic! I have got 2 lots from MFS and both of them taste peppery over about 8mg! Two things I have noticed. First vape of the day or after a few hours break makes the peppery taste very obvious and dulls with more vaping. Also if you allow your juice to steep and use a stronger flavour such as 555 or Cinnamon based flavours they tend to “hide” the nicotine pepperiness.

You may also be one of the lucky ones who just do not taste the “pepper” or perhaps your tastebuds have dulled from years of smoking “stinkies”?

I found that steeping will dull the “peppery” taste of nicotine and I agree with you that there is no substitute for time. I had 555 Mt Vaker Vapor 24mg juice that was unvapable when I first go it 3 months ago. Now it is just right! Still a little peppery but much better to vape!

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No clue. I haven’t smoked in about 2 years, so I’m pretty sure my taste buds are back to normal. I do let my juices steep for a week minimum. Maybe I just don’t taste it or don’t know better. I know I like my stuff more than most of the liquids I’ve purchased, but I could be biased. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Placed an order of 100mg nic from nude nic to see if it’s any better.

I’ve bee using M.F.S. for about 2 years and don’t seem to have any problems. IMHO but to each his own… I have a mixer the I bought for my airbrush. …it’s kinda like what you see in a shake shop, a round propeller that is bent all around and it fits in the bottles perfect! I think I knock off alot of steeping time by mixing it well with it first…by the next day, it’s pretty good!

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I have to agree with you there about the mixing. I can whiz my mix with a milk frother 4 or 5 good times while it goes through a warm rice bath and it really seems like it cuts the steep time a great deal. I’ve experimented with tobacco and custard mixes using this method, as apposed to just regular steep methods and have to say the whizzing process lets me enjoy my mixes a lot sooner!

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I picked a one of the electric hand mixers from Walmart that has a chopper blender attachment and a frother attachment. Its 2 speed and I use the frother on low speed to mix my juice. It was less than $15. I use a beaker or pyrex measuring glass to mix in. I mix it till it looks kinda foamy then put it in a hot water bath in a little slow cooker for a couple of hours. Afterwards I put it in a nice dark cabinet with the lid off for a day.

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So I got my 100mg bottle from nudenic the other day and mixed up a little batch of 8mg rockstar juice. Was just a simple recipe of 70/30 base with rock energy flavor west 12% and 1% LA sour & tart. Sounded like a pretty simple recipe but it still had a harsh peppery taste. I didn’t use the hot water steep this time either, just put them in a dark cabinet for a couple days. It’s gotta be something I’m doing wrong.
I just made two 5ml test bottles, one at 0mg and the other at 3mg to see how it turns out this time. Maybe the nic was too high.

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That’s the only way you’re going to find out where the issue resides in the mix. Experimentation is your teacher and friend; a cruel one at times.

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Kind of a silly question maybe, but did you shake your nic VERY well before using it? I’ve heard of ‘hot spots’ in nic base before. Mostly in High VG based nic liquid.

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I believe that could have been it or my nic level was just too high. I’ve noticed if I try and vape anything I make at over 6mg nic it’s kinda harsh no matter how much I shake it. So I have been mixing at around 3mg and everything has been fine. Just sucks that I threw out my old bottle of nic thinking it was bad lol. Oh well, live and learn.

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David what does this look like ? Can u snap a pic and put it up ? Man we are going to have an arsenal of tools aren’t we lol ! Mixer stirrer ultrasonic I use None of them as they’re intended lol. I think I want this mixer as well , does it froth and do you find it any better than the stirrer pros/ cons b4 I think hard on it ?

Jeff, sounds like you may want to get a home Nic test kit as well. NN has had its issues in the past and yes it may of been a one time deal but I wouldn’t take any chances I test every new Nic I get and to think yours was harsh hmm and around the time of their " mix up ". Too bad you don’t have your bottle you could of seen if the batch # was the same batch as the questioned one that Ken had issues with. Check out heartland Nic and carolinaxtract both superior nicotine.