Pfffft, hence the half quotes.
Seriously fish, read what you write, this whole âdebateâ is non sensical
Pfft again thread police!!!
Boo boo gaga⌠does someone need a diaper change
Iâll just leave the facts hereâŚ
If you make a recipe public:
- People want to adapt it for their own needs
- Your notes go over with that adaption
- Donât whinge about the above
He was mad, then he wasnât. I said âgood for you, you were mad then not mad anymoreâ. Why do you have an issue with it?
Your telling him itâs human nature to âstealâ stuffâŚ
The facts are right there⌠it doesnât take a genius to work it out and you are above average intelligenceâŚ
If I have misconstrued your posts please enlighten me
Youâre nuts. Human nature to feel offended. Everyone else gets that but you. Now resist the urge to continue your senseless debating.
And to your inevitable reply, sighâŚ
No more replyâs because your getting upset chin up
Iâve had one of my recipes double adapted so it wouldnât even go back to me at all! It was exactly the same picture I posted with it and all! All I did was leave a comment and said hey thatâs my recipe lol! Luckily it doesnât happen too often. Put a trademark by it and people are less likely to take it or say by (your name) after title this helps also!
Thank you I just may do that GalacticResidue. And to the gentlemen gubby and Phil_Fish, Iâm not upset by it but just an fyi I am very much a lady. lol
@daath - dnont know how hard it would be but when Someone adapts a recipe leave the original author intact⌠and add adapted by underneath .
This would give credit were credit is due⌠even when linkng adapted recipes in your private stashâŚ
I feel adaptations should show the whole history.
Sometimes people making things private can mess up the attribution.
For example Ellaâs Peanut Butter Cookie. Someone adapted it (twice) and the second adaptation says âThis recipe is a copy of: Peanut Butter Cookie â DIYRS â. Itâs actually adaptation of #703177 but since Ella herself made that private it looks like DIYRS made the recipe.
I think itâs a shame that if I adapt a recipe, but keep it private, and then adapt that one but make it public, then the âadapted fromâ links back to my private copy. It means Iâve kind of hidden the original just by adding a private recipe in between.
So Iâm saying if a recipe is made private by someone else in a chain of âadapted fromâ recipes, you should still be able to go back further in the history, at least the name of the recipe even if the ingredients remain private.
Maybe we should also be able to suggest if something was adapted (if itâs obvious)?
I donât think this is a good idea either. Iâve adapted recipes from people, taken as inspiration, and changed every single flavor or added flavors and their percentages.
You canât really say that the original creator deserves credit for something like that. As soon as youâre really going to change flavors (not talking about a single substitution or lowering the sweetener %), youâre going to change the final recipe⌠may even have different steeping time.
Where are you going to draw the line where the original creator deserves a mention or not?
I will always put in my comments where the recipe came from or who gave me the idea or inspiration to make this⌠but thatâs me and I donât expect everybody to do that and I wouldnât expect anyone to do it with me if the recipe has changed.
If this is in the form of a "Report recipe / user / ⌠" link, sure but I donât think the public , or even just moderators, should have access to the recipes from anyone. This will only start causing confusion, frustration and a lot of anger.
For complicated recipes this will probably be an obvious thing to do, but when youâre going to look at the simple 2, 3 or even 4 flavor recipes youâre starting to muddy the waters.
Yes I meant like a âreportâ button, perhaps I should have been clearer. I donât mean for just anyone to see those. I meant it in the same sense as @daath himself said above âBut I could handle those on a case by case basis and make the real one the âoriginalââ
Thatâs a good point; once one thing is changed itâs essentially a ânewâ recipe. Besides, once credit is established like that, it tends to start feeling like thereâs an ownership aspect, which goes against the open, sharing aspect of this place. And maybe the recipe you adapted was adapted three times previously, and the wrong âcreatorâ would be âcreditedâ anyway. Like, you adapt one of mine and the ownership trail leads to me, but I actually adapted it from someone else, who adapted it from the first person that published it. I doubt the staff wants to deal with endless claims of âTed stole my recipe!!â If I ever develop a recipe that goes viral and starts getting copied or adapted a bunch of times, well good for me. I published it for everyone to use in the first place and wouldnât feel any claim of ownership. Folks who would be interested enough to know the original author can find out so they can look at their other recipes if they want already, anyway. Besides, you could create a recipe based on an existing one from scratch without âadaptingâ it, and get around the whole adapted scenario in the first place. Thereâs always ways to game the system and some people just will. Nothing really to be done about that.
The only thing that possibly bothers me (and possibly doesnât mean it actually does), is when personal notes are left unmodified. Maybe the notes shouldnât copy over with the adaptation. Everyoneâs personal opinions obviously differ, and if the notes say âthis was especially good during our trip to Lisbon last Aprilâ, then obviously the adapter did not have the same experience and shouldnât claim that, even if they left the notes alone unintentionally.
Thatâs enough stream-of-consciousness for one post I guess. A lot of people are tired of me anyway.
I think itâs actually quite handy to keep them but it may be a good idea to automatically copy them to the private notes instead of the public notes.