That right there is the reason I still use a syringe. Well, that and the fact that I am a cheapskate and can’t bring myself to get a scale.
Not long ago I started a thread about scales and the lb501 was by far the most popular. I didn’t mention it in the thread but I had an lb501 and didn’t like it at all. I knew I needed one like you got because I do a lot of small batches and the 501 didn’t register a drop. Anywho, now you got me thinking about a new scale again. Thanks a lot. 
Really Dan? That bad?
No, not that bad yet 
I must have missed that post…
You’ve got a lot of hardware already… instead of giving in to your shiny-itis and buy a new RDA, give it a try next time your budget allows some spending. You won’t be disappointed.
There are quite a few cheap ones that will do the job.
ya, that’s not to to hard. My issue is that I will be needing DIY supplies. I can make it with the flavors I have but the VG, PG, and NIC are running dangerously low. Recently sold some worldly possesions and hope to replenish my Nic on Black Friday so maybe there will be change left over and I can pick up a .001 type scale.
Think about priorities first and don’t do it to please anyone else. All I’m suggesting is that it’ll make your life quite a bit easier than messing with syringes 
Perhaps. I guess I’ll have to wait and see. I do have my doubts. Probably because I am a creature of habit and dislike change. 
I am willing to live and learn though.
These 0.001 scales are Cheap on Amazon, I got the 50 gram scale and use it to mix concentrates. Works great!
The calibration weight that came with it is not accurate, I use 10 US Nickels which equals 50 grams.
What is the liquid barn 501 scales like bro
This is what I’m using. I’m sure there is better but I like it much better than mixing with drops. If i need precision beyond a drop I can mix up a 10 ml bottle of VG or PG diluted flavor, label it and mix with increased precision.
I use syringes to measure out still.
Its a pain really cos i have to keep taking the tops off the bottles!
How much easier is it to use scales really?
Would i be able to measure 2% of a 100ml bottle, so 2ml ?
Syringes are a pain in the butt. They’re accurate, but that’s all they have going for them.
It’s slow and you have a lot of cleanup to do afterwards. And then drying out. And you need loads of them when you want to mix a range of different flavors.
With a scale, it’s easy. Empty bottle on the scale, turn it on, squirt the flavor in, squirt another flavors in, and another. Put in nicotine if you want to. If you have premade base liquid, just top the bottle up and you’re done. No cleaning, just put your bottles away and that’s it.
If you have your nic, vg and pg separate, you measure them off separately but still, a lot faster with a scale than with syringes.
Most people here will agree that a scale is one of the best purchases they’ve done for mixing convenience.
If you do single flavor tests and small samples of recipes, it’s best if you get a 0.001g scale. If you’re mixing 100ml bottles and more, you’re more than good enough with a 0.01g scale.
Scales like this go from about £10 and up. A 0.01g scale usually goes to between 200g-500g, a 0.001g scale usually goes to 50g-100g. If you want scales with bigger ranges, you’re just going to spend a whole lot more money and for simple home DIY mixing, it’s just over the top.
It’s more about convenience and time saving than a difficulty level.
With ease, you can measure a 0.25% of a 30ml bottle. But it all depends on the quality and accuracy of your scale. A 0.001g scale will finely measure out very small quantities, but it won’t do your 100ml bottle (it will do the flavors, just not with the bottle and base liquids). A 0.01g scale will do up to nearly half a liter bottles with base liquids, but it won’t be great at doing 10 or 15ml testers.
Using the right tools for the job makes life so much easier and much more pleasant too.
Very well put, @Suomynona…
Without the right tools, sure you can mix, but with tools that are for certain measurements, you will become a better mixer.
I recently bought a 100ml beaker for making up pre-mixed base. Since I make my pre-mix bases by the Liter or 1/2 Liter it makes it very easy. I have recipies for my different bases. It’s also very easy to clean.
This is exactly what I have been using and still on my first batteries after 18 months.
Reacts fast, works well. Recommended
A lot of people like to use it. I don’t have the 501 so I’m not the best person to ask but like I said a lot lot of people use and like it. Here is a link discussing scales and a lot of people mention the 501
I never mix less than 60ml.
If I mix 30ml there is never anything left to steep.
I think 0.01g is perfect.
Because of all the rave reviews of the 501, I actually wanted to buy one after receiving my first scale that was pretty useless. Weight kept creeping up and down… unstable… not precise…different weight every time you weigh the same item.
I checked reviews for the LB on several sites and opinions are divided. People complain about the same issues for a scale that would cost me 3 times more + shipping + customs. So I dropped the idea, got myself a different one and it worked perfectly (even though it was only a third of the LB 501 price and free shipping and no customs).
These are all low budget scales that we’re discussing here and it’s all hit and miss to get a good one, no matter what brand you get. So if you get a bad one, don’t give up on it in frustration. Try to get a replacement or buy one from a different brand.
If you find that you’re running against the limitations of accuracy (like a drop doesn’t register)… get yourself a better suited tool for the job. It’s as simple as that really, and there’s plenty to choose from in the scales department.
Fantastic.
From the way you’ve explained, it makes a real lot of sense to get a decent set of scales.
Gonna get my ass on ebay right now.
Thanks for your help!
Had a really quick search, they’re properly cheap!!
What do you think of this one?
