Well @authormichellehughes I did a small batch of Delosi tests, some were OK, some were NOT, BUT the REALLY (really) super duper standout (thanks @jojo) was their Coconut. BEST by far, of ALL that I have tested, and Jojo liked it as well. I saw her review, and it COMPELLED me to try it.
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And of course I didn’t get that one LOL I ordered pecan pie and cereal base because I was trying to make my cart an even number when I bought the push in adapter.
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If someone wants to pay me to test flavor concentrates I’m game ROFLMAO
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Have I had too much coffee today? You ordered 2 extra concentrates to make it even? Am I reading this right? 
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If @anon84779643 wants to have a sampler pack sent to me, I don’t even need to be paid to test them. I’m game too! If she has the ability to arrange such a thing, anyway. I’ve never tried any FLV anyway.
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You should enter into the contests, just like everyone else, @anon70102222…
they happen every month almost…
thanks! 
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It wasn’t an even dollar number LOL
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I really don’t get it - if someone wants to use one flavouring company why is that such a big deal to you all & and why is the assumption made that because someone decides to use one flavour company then they are automatically a paid shill?
@anon84779643 is passionate about what she does and makes suggestions for flavour combos based on what she is most familiar with.
I don’t see people saying that @SessionDrummer is a paid shill for steamcrave or that I am a paid shill for Vaperzcloud. In all 3 cases, we just like their products and share knowledge of them.
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For me, it’s being tired of having threads that have nothing to do with FLV being constantly injected with it.
Most recent example?
A Photoshop thread. /smh
That’s my biggest gripe.
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I know for a fact Smoky Blue is misunderstood , especially with the way she comes off through messaging…Smoky and I have actually talked about this over the phone …Smoky was surprised by my comment we laughed a bit etc…I could tell everyone Smoky LOVES flv shes not here to profit or beat anyone up bc they lack the knowledge she has…I think her intentions are only good , Smoky truly feels that with only FLV you can create anything , and she has proven that… We all have seen a lot of people leave the forum over misunderstandings or that they were tired of nit being able to say how they felt without being misunderstood…Let’s not make anyone feel like they can’t Give there opinion bc people are tired of that opinion …Honestly thats all DIY mixing is a bunch of opinions…IMO Smoky brings this forum an informative insight unlike we have had b4 , like PV did with MF …love you all , let not become Reddit 
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I could understand what your saying and have seen ( suprisingly ) your frustration in other threads , Im sure I come off the same way in YT chats regarding MF … Her love For FLV is a bit obvious but harmless…
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That’s my biggest gripe too, getting sideswiped by a FLV comment out of left field, it gets to the point of feeling like spam.
I don’t want this to become Reddit as well @fidalgo_vapes, we can all get along, just ease up is all we’re asking, we are on this forum too.
@woftam you know how much respect I have for you brother, I have respect for @anon84779643 skills as well. I know you wouldn’t mention Vaperz Cloud every 4th or 5th post though. We all have our preferences and we are all aware of Smoky’s preference so do we need to be reminded on a daily basis?
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@woftam I was just talking to @anon84779643 last night about this, and I DO have some thoughts on this. You guys mind ? Hehe, I’m the OP, so let’s get it on. First off, I’d LOVE to be a shill for SteamCrave !!! Wanted to get that OUT of the way first, BUT, sadly, I am not.
Now, to delve into what wotfam asked, what’s the big deal about who wants to use what flavors (thing). The cool thing about ELR, is it’s NOT a SteamCrave site, OR, a Flavorah site for that matter, right ? So in MY case, what I DON’T do, is if I’m talking to someone about a mod/tank/RTA, etc., I do try and help them as best I can to help them with THEIR device/setup. I personally, don’t try to drive them to a SteamCrave, BUT, if they ask me what I think of them, why I use them, what would be a good model for them, I DO then respond. Same thing, different thing ?? Not sure, but let’s move on …
I told Smoky, that my take on this was that MANY of us (as you CAN see in THIS VERY POLL !!!) use a LOT of different flavor brands. We’ve invested a lot in them, have learned how to use them, and would like to learn more about them, mixing them, etc. NOW, if you have someone, anyone who doesn’t want to use any of those brands, or can’t offer much help with them, but only suggests buying more flavors from yet another brand, many mixers might be put off by that. I’m not saying smoky is doing this, but HERE, is an example. I start posting tomorrow, and I say I’m going ALL TPA All day, nothing else. Anyone asking for OTHER flavor brand help, mixing issues, recipe help, and I don’t offer UNLESS they switch to ALL TPA, is that the same ? Would I get the same blowback ??
I think I might.
I think the problem isn’t Smoky, or Flavorah. I think we would ALL love to use the flavors we HAVE paid for, sitting on our shelves. If anyone just pushes past what you ARE using, or are needing help with, or hell, just want to talk about, then it kind of devalues what you’ve got.
I was telling Smoky, that it would be far better to INCLUDE other flavor brands, as opposed to EXCLUDING all other brands. Then we all got MORE to talk about right ?? Myabe yes, maybe no. I don’t think ANYONE on ELR is trying to browbeat Smoky into using other brands. Haven’t seen it, heard it, don’t know nothing about it, because it’s NOT happening. Does she mention Flavorah too much ?? I can’t be the judge of that. I mention Steam Crave alot, but is that too much ?? I don’t know. You guys tells me.
Go ahead, wreck the thread, it’s MINE !!! The polls up top are what matters, have at it.
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Maybe I over-analyzed, maybe that’s it ?? Too repetitive ?
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Um someone spelled something wrong…Using a Z instead of an S is as bad as spelling Flavor with a U in it …lmao
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I think the poll up top shows, that most of us, use many different flavor brands. Doesn’t mean people who use less are criticized, just means the majority of us, have lots of flavors on our racks. That means, most of our recipes will have multiple brands, we’ll talk about multiple brands, etc. I think if anyone here only has one brand or two, then that will be a LIMITING factor in what we can talk about, mix around, etc. Doesn’t mean it’s the end of the world, but if I want to talk about TPA/CAP/FA I won’t be able to do it with those people, that’s all.
Now, if someone says they have an alternative idea/recipe, BUT, it’s with ONLY one flavor brand, I can CHOOSE to try that, or not. I might ignore it, and go right back to my TPA/CAP/FA, or find someone else to talk to about it. Again, not the end of the world, but it can have a LIMITING effect on things.
I sure to love to share what I think of Steam Crave, but try to keep it in check, as most people, if you go over the same thing, over, and over, most people just shut down, and or ignore it.
#TeamSteam
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Sorry @anon84779643,I just assumed from the auto-loop Flavorah redundancy and the affiliate link in your recipes that you were vested in it. So I apologize for the misunderstanding. But @Sprkslfly has a point about the high frequency of mentions, that’s all. Nothing personal at all.
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Doubt it, they’ve got a catalog of over 50000 flavours, producing for the food industry mainly and some vaping manufacturer but they make a lot of bespoke flavours and custom lines on customers requirements and those are naturally a trade secrets and are not allow to distribute them anyway, even if you get a chance of testing some don’t do it… the chances of having an oil based or not suited for vaping with them are extremely high!! That was a joke between me and @anon84779643 about the NC manufacturers… not related to FLV, it was a joke… (TPA?? who knows, trade secret 
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Odd. You would think they would be proud to say that on their website. 
But then again, they aren’t promoting (like they are with food) the depths of their activity in other industries either.
Granted, they’re going on three years of being “out of date” (according to the year reflected at the bottom of their “About Us” page… 2017)
Source?
It seems (at least from what I’ve found) that they are huge, and serve many industries.
Smoky also said that they also produce for other industries:
(pretty sure that was a typo for Altria, though I expect Smoky will correct me if I’m wrong.)
And I’ve found other sources that say they provide for pharmaceuticals, pet product, and nutraceuticals among others…
Source: https://www.glassdoor.com/Overview/Working-at-Mother-Murphy-s-EI_IE34714.11,26.htm
Source: Mother Murphy's Labs | LinkedIn
I would strongly agree with that @Iv3shf!
Especially considering the tobacco and pet food connection. lol
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Frank is absolutely right on that one! Stick with the vape flavoring manufacturers that Mother provides for.
That’s your safest bet!
Mother Murphy’s is HUGE, and I appreciate what the team (working with the vaping flavor industry) is doing! But I think it’s a bad idea to try and “go direct” in this case.
This doesn’t appear to be the same as going to Capella, or FA, or FW… This seems to be on par with Amoretti (and IPRA: in France).
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