Lost Vape Therion BF DNA75C Squonker Mod Review by Mjag

Hello once again and thank you for taking the time to view my review of the Lost Vape Therion BF DNA75C Squonker Mod which was provided by my friends at www.healthcabin.net . They are currently having a 10% of sale (except Clearance) from Feb. 10 - 25 2018 Coupon Code: CNY2018

What’s included

  • Therion DNA75C BF Device
  • USB Charging Cable
  • 7ML Silicon Squonk Bottle
  • 30ML Silicon Refilling Bottle
  • Therion USER Manual
  • Warranty Registration Card

Available in Black and Silver and a variety of leathers, not all colors shown below.

Specs

  • Powered by Evolv DNA75C Board
  • Wattage Control / Temperature Protection
  • Full Color TFT Screen
  • Theme Designer Software
  • Customizable User Interface
  • Onboard Programmable Multicolor LED
  • Genuine Leather Battery Cover
  • Ebony Wood / Carbon Fiber Inlays
  • Die Cast Zinc Alloy Body
  • Single 18650 Cell Setting
  • 7ML Silicon Squonk Bottle
  • 30ML Silicon Refilling Bottle
  • Temperature Limit: 200F - 600F
  • Output Power: 1 - 75Watts
  • Stainless Steel 510 Atomizer Connector
  • Integrated 1Amp On-board Balanced Charger
  • Dimensions: 90.5mm54mm27mm

Getting to know the Therion

The Therion in its various configurations is well know, no doubt about that. First available with the DNA75 chip it has had several versions after that. This is there first BF or Bottom Feeder version and it utilizes the latest DNA75C chip which offers a color screen, ability to make changes via the mod instead of having to plug it in via escribe and ups the voltage output to 9V, the previous DNA75 was only 6V. Unfortunately the efficiency of the board is still the same, only 85% which is a shame.

Now the DNA75C uses themes and Lost Vape had Daniel Djlsbvapes make a custom theme for the Therion BF DNA75C, when you open escribe, plug in the mod and click the Theme tab you will see this.

I love that they did this, it is set up wonderfully and I felt no need to make much changes at all. This is great for those that either do not know or don’t care to use escribe, it is setup great right out of the box, well done Lost Vape. About the only thing I made changes was to remove the Ni and Ti profiles as I never use those metals, change my battery profile and also remove the Auto lock when idle.

Getting the battery in is a pain, there is reverse battery protection via a ring around the positive end that just makes it tough to get you battery in and out. You also have to take care to not rip your battery wrap.

Once your battery is in there is a plastic piece that is installed to go between the battery and squonk bottle.

Then just reinstall the bottle which is easy enough.

They also include a 30ml refill bottle which comes in really handy. There is a process to refilling which they cover well in the owner’s manual.

There is a hole and notch that when under normal use you would have them separated like this:

When it comes time to refill just line up the hole and notch so that there is air to escape when refilling, it would look like this.

Then you just unscrew the 510 cap on the refill bottle and thread it on the Therions 510 and squeeze away.

Just make sure that once you are done you turn the hole away from the notch on the squonk bottle again, if not then air and juice will escape from that hole.

It is not hard to just remove the bottle and refill it that way but the refill bottle is a really nice touch and works great.

My only complaints would be the little plastic do dad that separates the battery from bottle and the difficulty installing and removing the battery. These 2 things could have been better implemented, a lot of times I just charge via the USB to avoid removing the battery, it can be a PITA.

Fit and finish

If you have never held a Therion in your hand the fit and finish is just beautiful. Lost Vape has stepped up there game with the finish on my silver, far and away better than my Lost Vape Triade which starts to chip paint just by looking at it. In a months use I have not gotten a single chip and the alligator leather is holding up just fine. Buttons are nice and clicky and not rattle whatsoever, just a really solid mod and well worth the price they are asking.

It is a beautiful mod for sure and the battery covers can be purchased separately, here is the original I got in Yellow Crocodile with the QP Design Kali 25mm RDA on top.

And here it is with the Crown Bull battery cover I found at a local vape shop with the Vandy Vape Maze 24mm RDA.

24mm tanks look the best on the Therion but as you can see above 25mm tanks looks good as well, just a bit of overhang on the bevel, not the mod itself.

I don’t have a 28mm RDA but I tried on the 28mm Triple so I can show you what it would look like.

Performance

I am not going to dive down to deep here, it is a DNA board which has proven time and time again to be one of, if not the top board in the market. I will mainly speak to its out of the box performance which has been excellent seeing as they had DJLsb Vapes write a custom version for it. For those of you who don’t know he is a technical reviewer on youtube who knows his stuff.

Having owned 3 previous DNA75 mods, 2 of which I sold due to lack of use, the new DNA75C is a worthy upgrade. I was never a big fan of the original DNA75 and if you bought one that was not set up like the Hcigar VT75 then you had to get into escribe to get the most out of it. Sure you could get outstanding TC performance if you knew what you were doing with escribe with the DNA75. With the way the Therion DNA75C chip it setup you get excellent performance right out of the box, this is the way all DNA mods should be setup.

I love the added mode button of the DNA75C, makes it so you can make changes directly on the mod, no need to plug into your PC or Mac to make routine changes like preheat. You also don’t need to remember all the different button combinations to change temp, power, mode and materials, that was a pain prior to the DNA75C, really makes me look forward to the DNA250C which should be releasing soon.

SS316L TC performance has been outstanding, Daniel did a great job there. Even if you don’t like it you can always go into escribe and make changes but for me there was no need.

Power performance is what you would expect from a DNA mod, it is just solid, not much more needs to be said.

As far as squonking, it just works really well with the soft silicone bottle and removing and replacing the bottle is a snap. A little bit of juice was present in the case but that may have been from my mistake of forgetting to the move the hole from the notch after refilling, I forgot a couple of times…whatcha gonna do?

Every tank I had worked fine with the exception of the Wotofo Nudge 24 I reviewed a little while back. The Nudge worked on all my other mods but would not connect to the Therion for some odd reason. It was baffling, would not connect with the squonk pin or non squonk pin installed, I just got the “No Atomizer” screen when I went to fire. Even the new Nudge 22 worked, just not the Nudge 24 but it does have a shorter than normal 510.

Battery Life

Keeping in mind this is a single 18650 mod it is good, not great and that has a lot to do with the 85% efficiency of the board. This is not a mod you want running full bore at 75 watts unless you love swapping batteries all day. I could go nearly all day with a single coil at 0.60 ohms, this was my favorite setup vaping in TC. I am running a dual coil at 0.16 ohms at the moment and it fires it fine but there will be at least 3 to 4 battery swaps in a day.

I have already mentioned it but it should be said again, swapping batteries in this thing just sucks. One time a battery was really in there, the battery ribbon would not get it to budge. I had to use ceramic tweezers to finally wiggle it out. I normally don’t recommend charging via the USB but this does have balanced 1 amp charging and it is only a single cell. Now I just plug it in via USB instead of removing the cover, removing the bottle, taking off the cover and wrestling with the battery to get it out. You have to be careful of the protruding squonk pin as well, if it is still connected to the bottom negative and you hit the squonk pin on the way out it will fire your atty, happened to me once.

Pros

  • World class TC and power mode performance
  • DNA75C interface is a nice upgrade over the previous DNA75
  • 9V output vs the previous DNA75 6V limit
  • Soft silicone bottle that holds 7ml (verified with syringe)
  • Includes 30ml soft silicone refill bottle that works great
  • Customizable via Evolv Escribe software
  • Custom theme installed, excellent performance out of the box
  • Well built and durable finish
  • Can change the look by ordering different color battery covers

Cons

  • 85% board efficiency, the DNA250 is 97% efficient by comparison
  • Battery is a PAIN to get in and out and need to be careful of not hitting the squonk pin
  • Battery partition between battery and bottle could be better and no spare included
  • Battery ribbon was a little long, I had to cut off about 3mm so it didn’t go past the battery door
  • Tanks with short 510’s like the Wotofo Nudge 24 may not work

Final thoughts

Being my first DNA75C mod I was not sure what to expect, the original DNA75 mods I had were mostly disappointments to me. I have to say that the month I spent with the Lost Vape Therion BF DNA75C has been a great time and I have so enjoyed using it. It is definitely a mod I will continue to use and in a lot of ways I like it better than my Lost Vape Drone DNA166 BF mod. My Drone hasn’t seen a lot of use in the last month, that is how much I have been enjoying the Therion.

There are downsides though, installing and removing the battery just sucks, I hate doing it so much that I usually charge via USB. You have to build higher for better battery life as well, I have really been enjoying it with a single coil in the 0.40 to 0.60 ohm range with excellent results.

All in all it is a beautiful well made mod with a lots of pros and little cons that can be overlooked for the performance it provides. If I was to lose this mod tomorrow in a freak fishing boat accident I would buy another in a heartbeat, I don’t say that often about any products.

I want to thank Maggie from www.healthcabin.net for sending me this to review, it will get a lot of use from here on out. They are having a 2018 Chinese Spring Festival Sales with 10% off using Coupon Code: CNY2018 and the Lost Vape Therion BF DNA75C Squonker Mod can be found here in a lot of different colors and options: https://www.healthcabin.net/lost-vape-therion-bf-dna75c-squonker-mod-kit-p/15866.html Hurry though, the sale ends February 25th 2018. They carry the spare bottles as well, great for quick flavor swaps.
Make sure and check out there clearance section too, great deals for sure: https://www.healthcabin.net/clearance/

Check out how this stacks up to other tasty gear and meet the Steampugs team of reviewers. Your bound to have a good time and read up on some great products, not so great ones too http://www.steampugs.co.uk/

Pics with other toppers:

Conspiracy 24mm RDA. Probably my favorite combo with a 0.60 ohm single coil build

Vandy Vape Bonza 24mm RDA

Vandy Vape Pulse 24 24.5mm RDA

Ehpro Iguana 24.5mm RDA

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Great review as always. Definitely described the unit well. Love the unit. Don’t love the battery life. There is a fix or enhancement that can be done to make battery insertion a little easier. With the 75C you have internal reverse battery protection so one can grind off the part of the plastic “ring” that surrounds the positive connector in the battery tray. The battery will then slip in and out easily. Obviously such a modification is not everybody’s cup of tea. You will still have to remove the squonk bottle first obviously.

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Thanks Ogre!

I will have to take a look at grinding off that plastic ring. I did not take this one apart as every Lost Vape mod I have owned has had as solid as they come 510. I also didn’t want to take the chance with this one as I enjoy it so much, the thought of something possibly going wrong sent shivers down my spine :wink:

I really didn’t expect to like this as much as I do, I have some really nice squonk mods already. I am still using it this morning and will rebuild an RDA for it later today to continue using it. As long as you build for it it is a great squonk mod to use everyday.

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I agree for sure. It’s one of my favorites as well. Got a pretty high resistance in the Iconic and the battery life is not too dismal. Here is a link to the fix. I forgot I even posted pictures. Therion DNA75 C Another quick fix

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That and routinely wrestling w/ bottle, id take the usb route too @ 1 amp it should be ok, it should be :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: They are gorgeous tho. Another fine review!

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Nice, thank you Ogre, I got just the tools in the garage so may try that out this weekend :+1:

Thank you @worm1. There is another added benefit, at least for Non-US users. Evolv plans to do a firmware update for the DNA75C to add the replay feature which will be available in the new DNA250C. Due to FDA regs they won’t release it to US users though, sure am going to try and find a way though.

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From what I understand, the firmware is going to be available online as the “international version” and freely available to anyone who wants to upgrade.
People selling to the US have to sell it with the US firmware.
I can’t imagine it will be difficult to get. Unbelievable though that the FDA allows straight full on power that can burn cotton and give a nasty throat hit but doesn’t allow something I see as a safety feature (and a luxury).

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Great info, thank you fot sharing. From what I have seen replay looks like the next big thing, I can’t wait to try it.

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Awesome review brother :wink: …I have to say even though I am not well sold on single battery squonkers, this is one of three that I actually really enjoy.

Thanks for sharing man :ok_hand:

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Yeah, single battery squonks are usually not my thing either but I can’t stop using this thing. For now this has replaced my Drone, might be because of all the single coil RDA squonks I have gotten lately though.

Thanks brother, appreciate it :+1:

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Great review @mjag! The Therion is one of my favorites when it comes to regulated squonkers. It has very few niggles , replacing the battery is about my only gripe but after you learn the correct angle of insertion it becomes minor.
It looks , feels , and works beautifully , an absolute bargain IMO.

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Thanks @BoyHowdy

I agree, it is a bargain and that is saying a lot considering it is about $140 but what you get is definitely worth the price and then some.

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Awesome review! Ty healthcabin for the product! I agree with you 100%. That battery stuffed that far into the mod behind all the other stuff is crazy. Need a better solution asap lost vape. Sucks charging by usb if that’s the only mod you have set up, have to wait to finish charging to vape. Overall if you say can be overlooked I take your word for it. Ty!

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Thanks reds!

I wound up selling my Think Vape Finder DNA mod because of those positive caps that made battery swaps a pain. I loved that mod too but when I got the lost vape Paranormal with it’s easy as pie batt swaps the Finder was expendable. The Paranormal would make for a great squonker but I am hoping they come out with a more elegant solution that either uses a larger single battery or duals. Love my LV Drone but it is ugly next to the Therion or Paranormal.

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They are bringing good money on the used market.You are not the only one that loves them.

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Wow, I may sell mine, for that price I can buy the Boxer dual 20700 dna250c squonk mod.

Thanks for letting me know :+1:

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Another great one @mjag, and I think your honest feelings about the battery will help people a lot.

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Thanks bud!

Gotta talk about the good and the bad so people can make an informed decision. I really enjoy your reviews too man, keep it up!

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If you get one please do a review! I like my Boxer mechs but the Boxer DNA75C 2X700 I bought is just meh.I honestly prefer the Therion , it was almost half the price and why I consider the Therion a bargain.
Have you looked at the Rebel Vapes dual battery ,Dna equipped Squonks made in the U.K. look nice but again they are pricey.

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Awesome review, cheers :beers:

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