to create this would take no time at all if you are computer savvy
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The ability to choose the flavors that are in it. As a âfreebieâ a couple pair of nitrile gloves, a couple assorted sized syringes and a sheet of ideas, recipes, and maybe a link to the great fantastic ELR. The ability to choose premixed base mix of assorted nic levels 3, 6, 9, and 12 mg/ml. I know I know once the flavor is in it will be lower, but give them a chance to have some easy mixes and as they mix and learn they can get into true DIY.
Hey @Nicotine_River I got a question for you. Are you supposed to call each and every person that orders product from you that resides in the state of Ca? To verify their age each and every time they order?
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Thatâs always been my primary concern actually. It only takes one personâs screw up, to potentially ruin thousands of peopleâs mixes (or worse if Nicotine is concerned). I think having the option, for those who want it, would be awesome though!
Also agree with GPCâs idea of gloves! Great call my friend!
Itâs also made me wonder before about the way that ELR obtains their values. Are they an aggregate of everyoneâs entered data (like the flavoring data is), or are those only keyed in and handled by @daath and/or @JoJo, and are actually static numbers?
Iâll be curious to learn the answer!
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Hmmmm. Only for water. Hmm. Please check out linked thread below. Personally I do the 1gm/ml just because generally when folks post their recipes across the forums they donât list their specific gravity weights being used. So generally aceppted for flavor weightâŚnot for pg/vg/mix concentrates.
All in all to each their own.
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This. If you want most recipes posted here to turn out as the creator intended I think you will find most were posted as 1 gm = 1 ml.
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The specific gravity for VG is a good bit higher than PG, thatâs where you would need to be careful. I think PG & PG flavors the 1ml/1g is safe enough, but with your NIC (if not 100% pg), flavors, and just plain VG thereâs a noticeable specific gravity difference.
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The main reason I pointed it out was due to the fact that it plays a larger role when it comes time to mix in larger quantities. Eg: 60ml, 120ml, 240ml, etc. The larger you go, the further off your going to be.
On top of which, as MysticRose kindly pointed out, when you factor in the fact that some flavors are being sold in vg format, and possibly even mixed formats, it becomes even more important to make sure your gravities are accurate.
YMMV though.
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Flavor weights are put in by daath according to what is listed on the manufacturerâs websites or obtained by email or what have you. The weight of PG is set at 1.036 and the weight of VG at 1.26, IIRC. Any flavors whose gravities canât be verified with the source are set to 1 g/ml. Flavors that are based in VG typically use the weight of VG (I believe). Some VG flavors need to be checked and changed manually, as they were put in as PG flavors to begin with so donât automatically change. @daath can confirm/deny all this, but itâs what Iâve gathered.
Nicotine weight doesnât take into account the weight of the actual nicotine, it uses the weight of the combination of PG and VG in the nic.
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Yeah, VG is roughly 1.267-1.3 grams per ml which is pretty significant.
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The majority of people, including myself, us a specific gravity of 1 when it comes to flavors. The difference between the flavorâs SG is so small, that it doesnât really matter and the window of error is so small. On average a flavorâs SG range from .95-1.05, so itâs way easier to just do 1 across the board. Plus it is near impossible to find SGs on every flavor out there. So yes we do 1g-1ml but when it comes to things like VG, which has a SG of 1.26, we use those SGs (Nicâs, PGâs)
I think out of the 1000+ flavors I have, there is maybe 3 flavors that have a higher SG. Like capâs yellow peach is a whopping 1.40 or something. Again though, as long as you do the same calculations in replicating a recipe, it doesnât matter
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Maybe we talk Lars into putting a section of beginner mixes that are pretty simple. NR can link to the section, the newb can look at them to help decide what flavors to get. Every kit I looked at had a majority of flavors that I would never use. Most who start DIY are already vaping and have some idea of what their flavor profile is or at least where it might be heading.
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For pg/vg/nic I use specific gravitates, for flavors I use 1=1 (g/ml)
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I actually wondered that myself when I first began. So I googlfud when I first entered flavors in my flavor stash. I found the sg from the websites, like tpa, and looked to see if it was the same on elr. I only checked the first 20 or so, and they were all correct or within .002. So I just went with it. There were some sites I couldnât find the sgâs listed, and those were mostly listed as 1g/1ml so Iâm assuming whoever input them couldnât find them either. But itâs something I have wondered as well. There is also a button under setting where you can put a check in the box to either use a default of 1g/ml or use sg for each flavor. One of the things I love about his site, so many customization options 
Agrred. I think you should have a mix by weight kit and a mix by volume kit.
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All in all it would great if @Nicotine_River was sanctioned to provide the first ever âapprovedâ branded ELR mix by weight kit. Maybe a tiny portion of profit back to Lars and the site to say thanks for keeping it free. Call it cross promotional opportunity maybe.
A kit shouldnât be complicated. 6 15ml and 30ml bottles, a scale, a couple syringes for measureing nicotine (since I do recommend measuring weight and volume of mix for safety at the 100mg level), maybe flavors for two approved (6 flavors total?), and ect.
You could be the first DIY shop to offer a scale and be a leader in that realm.
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so would it be bestbto use syringe on nicotine ?? i always have but every once in a while ill get lazy and weigh it
I weigh. I donât have time for syringes. Itâs close enough. The weight of nicotine is pretty negligible. I donât remember where I got this from (apologies to the originator if you read this), but hereâs what I have for some weights of PG, VG, and Nic combos:
PG 1.036 g/ml
VG 1.26 g/ml
Water 1 g/ml
Weight of 100mg in PG: 1.035 grams per ml
Weight of 60mg in PG: 1.03632 grams per ml
Weight of 50mg in PG: 1.0366 grams per ml
Weight of 48mg in PG: 1.036656 grams per ml
Weight of 36mg in PG: 1.036992 grams per ml
Weight of 24mg in PG: 1.037328 grams per ml
Weight of 100mg in VG: 1.235 grams per ml
Weight of 60mg in VG: 1.245 grams per ml
Weight of 50mg in VG: 1.2475 grams per ml
Weight of 48mg in VG: 1.248 grams per ml
Weight of 36mg in VG: 1.251 grams per ml
Weight of 24mg in VG: 1.254 grams per ml
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I do feel strongly about a Users Manual that includes safety info, tips and tricks, a simple guide to mixing, a list of popular Calculators or mixing apps, and a list of helpful website addresses to learn more. Also that people are able to choose their own flavors as I didnât like the kits because of the flavor choices were ones I wouldnât use. Also maybe include an inexpensive but decent milk frother for mixing.
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Speaking for myself, I would like to see the 2oz bottles go back to the old price. I rarely purchase 1oz bottles and if I need to, I can get that one or two elsewhere. 90% of my flavorings are purchased from NR and now that they have Inawera, I think that will increase to 98%. As a newly made single parent of a non-stop eating machine, I gotta watch every penny.
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@Nicotine_River why dont you just offer the tfa line 30ml bottles at 3.95 , dont prebottle them since you have the bottles but stock the 60ml bring down that price , for those who will buy the 30ml will realize that it may take an extra day to fulfill order but your margins on the 30ml will be great and thise who want 60ml get that option , im not sure how difficult this would be to do thw 30ml at time of order ??? just a thought
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I agree totally each kit should always include a nicotine test kit as well as nitrile gloves. They commonly are sold for under 10$ @Nicotine_River
http://www.ecigexpress.com/diy-e-liquid/mixing-tools-safety/testing-kits/nicotine-testing-kit.html
https://www.nudenicotine.com/product/nude-nicotine-test-kit-high-resolution/
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