OK, what's the REAL DEAL with Stainless Steel Wire?

I’m sure there is a science to this and I’m sure it all makes sense, but in truth, I personally can taste kanthal. It isn’t a bad taste per se, but there is a slightly metallic aftertaste to it IMO. With the SS wire, regardless of TC or wattage mode, the taste is much cleaner. No metallic aftertaste. There are a lot of people who don’t see a difference in wattage mode between the two regarding flavor but I can. I rebuild my ex’ Reaper coils using SS wire and she always comments on the cleaner taste of the rebuilt coils, so I guess she can taste the difference as well in wattage mode.

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Oh my, something went south. Ya’ll continue this one without me. This just weird’s me out.

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One thing I want to say which I’m sure most of us are aware of, but here it is. Make sure your battery matches your wire and build especially with a mech. Sometimes we get caught up with hype of new stuff. a vtc5a is only rated at 25amps so if I was using these I’d probably opt for kanthal! When using ss use a battery rated between 20-30 amps! Vtc4 says 30amp but it’s really more like a 20 amp that can be pushed to 30 according to mooch! Point is make sure your battery pairs well with build!

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So… I rebuilt my tank with another SS coil… Still ohm jumping… from .39 at the start and every time I push the button to heat it goes up and up until around .6 that’s a big difference when you are vaping in power mode… what am I doing wrong?

P.S sorry @SessionDrummer for hijacking your thread :wink:

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Ok maybe I jumped the gun… dry firing this resulted in big fluctuations in ohms… as the coil glowed the ohms increased. After I wicked it and started vaping on it… only moved by .01 of the original setting… and let me say this… using a simple contact coil I’m getting the best flavor iv ever had from a single simple coil build… wow talk about clean flavor!!! I’m only tasting my juice and it’s awesome!

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@SthrnMixer, FWIW @Gambit117 was right … and i was wrong - i think i managed to confuse myself and explained it wrong - many variables here… so please, all, forgive me.

the same coil ID, wraps with same gauge in K1 would have higher resistance (say 1ohm) and will heat up faster… in the old days, we used coils like these at 14-17 watts range… then came SS, if it’s the same build, it will have lower resistance, and hence will heat slower… and you can/need to up the wattage to 22-25 to get similar experience (in terms of heat) – the confusing part, is when instead of sticking to same-size coil then do the comparison, you build a same-resistance coil. where with SS you need more wire in the coil, and end up with hotter vape
(trying my best to avoid getting into technicalities again :))

thanks @Gambit117 for correcting me. again, all, please forgive me.
this part out of the way, i think we summed up the answer to why some people move to SS, cleaner vape, ability to run in power and TC modes, less health concerns, As easy as (almost) kanthal to work with … and you guys are wonderful :slight_smile:

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Maybe that’s just what you need. Some extra spring in your step.

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It is actually rated at 25amps

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If i am on the run that would be nice for sure :wink:

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well for me… the pros are:

  1. better taste (Subjective) though with KA1 i get some light metallic taste.
  2. works great in both TC and Watts mode
  3. unlike other wires doesn’t leave any aftertaste or whatever (taste subjective)

cons:

  1. needs a little more experience when building with it, cleaning hotspots, dryburn it etc…KA1 is more more forgivable…
  2. makes about half Ohms on same ga and Wraps than KA1 (Even Lower than Nichrome too in comparisson with kanthal) (it’s not always the best choice when working with more complex wires like Fused Claptons, etc) specially if you don’t have much room for your coil or your mod can’t handle very low resistance… this is subjective though imho…
  3. it gets dirty kinda faster than others though i don’t really care since i find the taste better…

now for the deal…
it’s all about what you like better what your needs are, taste is subjective (others say SS gives a way great taste some other can’t even feel the difference), depending on hardware you have sometimes SS can be a heaven some other times can be a real hell while it works great in both TC and Power mode that makes it versatile (unlike Ni200 (can’t work on Power mode), KA1 (CAn’t work in TC), Ti (Can’t work in Power mode etc) but in overall it’s all about your choice mate… try some coils with SS or other wires and check the difference yourself, it’s the best thing you can do…

if someone wants to start posting about chemistry in wires etc etc etc… oh well, seriously, i was a really heavy smoker before… vaping changed my life and i am feeling healthier, also my expenses dropped really much in comparison with stinkies and that’s enough for me in reality… i wouldn’t like to be on a race of “this does that and that doesn’t and this is safer and that isn’t” for a dmg reduction of like 1-3% or something like that… if someones makes a choice and using Ti for example (that i really hate the taste of it) it’s his choice, if he finds pleasure while vaping with it i am fine with it, if we can’t find pleasure with what we are doing then at least in long term we will not continue doing it… and vaping imho is saving and making our lives better… choose what brings you more pleasure mate, and keep vaping…

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Thx @Norseman when I looked it up could of swore it was 15 lol my mistake thx for pointing it out! That did seem low for a Sony Will edit!

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316l surgical stainless all the way. I use 22 and 24 g the most for cores now and wrap with 30-34g. As many coils as I personally go through I t r y to keeps the builds lower in gauge and lower in ohm for my needs. I like to keep it at .1-.2 ohm and vape from 75w-150w or 100 joules at 275-315f. Tried all kinds of wire and I find that personally ss is the one for me. It’s pretty easy to work with too :).

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Those are some sick coils!

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hey thanks :slight_smile: i used to sell them on ebay along with mods, attys, batteries and chargers until ebay shut me down due to them being “considered a tobacco product” even though the people that were selling in competition are still selling the exact same things ‘still’ a year later. really was a nice side income for me and my family for the few months it lasted. now i just do biz locally.

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Ugh that sucks. Such BS.

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yeah i don’t even understand the politics behind that. i talked to one rep on the phone who “didn’t understand why they took my listings down, I’ve been selling the same items for years.” until you get higher up the chain and they claim to not discriminate on their selective policy enforcement. I was told if I relisted anything I would be banned from using ebay again.

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now i am trying to try and make labels to sell one shot concetrate’s to local stores. i suck at design though. i can hardly draw stick figures lol.

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Wow that’s harsh. :-1:

Then fancy text it is, huh? Lol

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Clip art that shit!

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I did some fancy text labels yesterday to put on some bigger bottles that I need to mix up. So simple and they turned out pretty well I think!! Sometimes simple is just fine.

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