Proper single flavor testing

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Same same.

That’s what I USED to say.

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As I continued testing setups, and comparing them, I was actually very surprised to see how MANY did SOME flavors good, and others not so much. Deliberated over fancy multi multi wire coils, and just kept coming back to the simple flavor chucker.

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I’m a simple guy, but I learned quickly that my taste buds are different than everyone else’s. When I try out a flavor or a recipe I focus on one thing…does it taste good. So many profiles miss the mark they’re aiming at but they can still taste good. I’m pretty sure I’ve yet to taste a single flavor that I thought was crappy and then it turned out to be good because I mixed it with something else.

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This is me too mate, coupled with the fact I only vape MTL. Almost nothing tastes the way others say for me so I just find stuff I like and go with that. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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We can definitely relate to your frustration so allow me to inject a bit a humor on the subject of taste and some peoples perception of flavors…
It tastes like WHAT?

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I’m doing a flavor order right now so far I only need the blue Raspberry and the cap juicy peach. I have everything else. So I am going to mix this up and see what your talking about. Just like this “pink fruit” (flavourah) I’ve looked at pplz notes and first there aren’t any and what I have found is bad but I tried this one and it isn’t bad at all its actually pretty good. I don’t understand it but mabye ppl are getting turned off because of the shitty notes. I may have been but I purchased it before I read those. …you got me thinking @fidalgo_vapes …thinking I is…

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I try not to read notes …Ill look at median pcts as SF then do it a little lower do if median says 3 ill do a 1.5 and 3 pct …Other times ill look at what flavor it is so day MF Wild Raspberry Median was 2 I would know thats too high so I would Say at .5 to 1 pct but thsts bc I know MF so well …Always start lower when SFT since you can add more…Take a 10ml bottle and remeber each drip you add is apprx .2 pct so if you are at 1 pct in a 10ml and yiur not getting anything add 3 drops and you will be at apprx 1.5 - 1 6 pct…Reading other peolles notes has often mafe me expect alot so im often disappointed with SF

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Yeah I mean I don’t do that anymore its too time consuming and I can get an idea from a sniff and a tip of the tongue taste…the flavor profile is what it is and u only really need to know Does this Cohesively work with this.I use my little baking n cooking experience to carry me to the finish.If the concentrate is any damn good at all your just lookin for a correct percentage to use it at and whether u want it up front or an accent note.Unless your entering an ejuice contest you can make very awesome ejuice by jotting down exactly what your tryna achieve whether its a dessert, beverage,Fruit ice, Fruit mashup etc I guarantee these people that go in for all that at the end of the day eliquid is no better or worse than mine.I learned more from youtube mixing channels to get the percentage of something I’m unsure of in combination with the recommended percentage is.I mean I’ve been mixing tons of recipies for three years n sometimes the one I whip up in a rush with a little of this and that turns out better than the one I spent so much time on.You can do all the single tests u want but if you don’t know where or how u want to even use it its pointless for me n I’ve strayed too deep down that rabbit hole lol.Know what u want, Keep it simple and make it.Ive even seen people use those tiny paper ketchup cups each with a set amount of water and put exactly 2-3 drops of concentrate in it-swish it around in his mouth and spit it out.He proceeded to do this for every new flavor he acquired to get its true flavor on his taste buds :grinning:its actually a very clever idea for single flav tests but you know what about ones that need steeping? That’s where single flav testing gets a little tricky but u do get to taste close to what it is i guess.But custards, cheesecakes etc stack the best ones they make and dance around it with fruits and or a bakery.Fruits are the easiest u just need to know what works together or what creams u like if u even like fruits with cream but keep the recipes simple and to your liking.It doesn’t always have to be these delicate Honneysuckle violet rose with a dash of raisen lol you know what I’m saying.Im making it sound a bit harsh n don’t know what I’m doing or whatever but I do and I went thru all that trial n error with people tryna over complicate it when it doesn’t need to be.When I look at these supposed great ejuice off the shelf and people who’ve cloned it till they got it close u should be able to kinda guess how they made it cause these juice companies use the same concentrate companies we do. Good luck happy mixing n if u need help hit me up my page on Elf only has a fraction of my stash n my recipies.I have tons in my DIY journal.You want to make a thick shake,Cream cheese Doughnut, Fruit custards n cheesecakes whatever it is I can probably make it and simplify this for you by giving you % amounts or whatever I’m here to help anyone I can and DIY is extremely fun n challenging but doesn’t have to be a struggle either :yum:

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Thanks for thisb@Mike_card I appreciate this good advice. I have over 200 flavors so its hard alot to do SFT everyday.

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Oh your welcome I hope it helps a little.Im in a few FB DIY groups and there’s basically 3 types of mixers
1- People who are over the top im the best precise mixer and all my juices rule n everyone should listen to me
2- People who bought all these flavors but have no clue how to bake a potato or know what should or could Work and their recipes are a confusing mess with no main profile
3- People who Take it serious but not get too sucked into the abyss of flavors but have 100 or under concentrates n can live out their days with but will try some new n interesting flavs when we get the hear about it and I obviously fall in the last category :grinning: but even this morning I’m still ordering stuff cause jungle flavors has 50% off using code July 50 for a few more days.I ordered some white choc and a better coconut to try in the cappuccino froth im working on.I also grabbed more Staple Fruits n some cinnamon candy cause I never tried it but been wanting to.I normally go to bull city but good deal at jungle n the other place who has awesome authentic concentrates and I could probably shop their exclusively is VSO flavors but their a bit pricer but so worth it.They have their own one shot types n very good fruits :+1:

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Simplification and routine is the key to SFT. I assume that @Mike_card gave great advice (long walls of text I skip).

If you test with a routine, then you can assess and pinpoint issues with ease: I have got to the point when a lack of vitamin C or light for vitamin D affects notes I make.

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Well I live in Canada and just finally got my second order from bcf and my 1st from chefs sndnit cost me probably at least 100 to get them both shipped to me on top of my actual order … and the exchange rates are stupid so idk what it would cost me to even phantom an order from jungle flavors but I would if I could. …im a flavor junkie I got some of the weirdest flavors that im just sitting on until I get good enough to lol :laughing: know what I’m doing with them…my latest is zesty Lemongrass (MB) its great the sft was super but what to mix it with…I have no fuckin clue…but I def can cook and def a potato. :potato: I call my cat a floofy potato. He is 21lbs his name is bear :bear:

Now he is a floofy potato :potato:

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I hope there is no correlation between these two statements mate… :rofl: :rofl:

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:rofl: floofy potato!

Luna is only 9 pounds. We call her “that little turd,” most of the time. Occasionally she’s “sweetheart” but that’s only when she wants something… :smirk:

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note to self . when at ladycrooks’ and eating Chinese dishes that begin with tiger. check and see if bear is asleep on the couch … :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Lol yeah lemon grass is a tough one lol…ive never tried it but maybe a tea or something light maybe cucumber or pear

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Lol I try…if someones struggling with single flav testing i felt it best to know what your gonna do with them after all that,well have some idea .Otherwise they may not be ready to be goin thru all that just yet :grinning: its tedious enough as it is

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I know I get stuck on one thing and that’s it. Until more multiple fails …like my last one strawberry green (FA)and watermelon yellow (sc) (WF)
But im not completely done with that there has got to be a way somehow but I just can’t keep trying with that rn. Couldn’t just do something normal that I know will probably work like idk mabye kiwi or normal watermelon. Nope has to be the weird yellow one. Cuz I think it will work. Really I don’t have a fucking clue if it does on a good day…lol

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fuck I got stuck on jungle flavors for about a good hour after I read that…lol thx for that one. But I was strong and convinced myself I do not need anymore I have like 250 now and your right barely touched them cuz I have no fuckin clue what to do with almost all of them. I’ve wasted a ton of product just finally convinced myself to not put nic in them unless they’ve already been mixed, by a reputable mixer…ive learned that mistake too and mixed someone else’s fails also. Lol anyway I just aquied 248 flavors recently and I have another 100 coming from @Wombatred26 in the mail. Its 5lbs of fluid coming here too the customs duty fees should be stupid but thats a while another trip im on. Lol

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