Understood, but experimenting with new flavorings at $24/15ml is a fairly steep investment.I don’t buy commercial e-liquid so the comparison doesn’t apply for me.
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I am pretty sure you will find that while oil is used in the making of the flavour there is no actual oil left in the finished product - is it safe? Not sure not a doctor.
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I am saying a dont agree that we shiuld avoid natural.extracts…
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Your right … Oils are removed from the finished product …
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Thanks @Sprkslfly
@Plunderdrum: don’t get excited. None of these new four is PG-free. I just checked 
Looks like we’re stuck with MF 
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This was such a nice thread about Capella, can we tidy this back up and move some stuff to the MF has PG thread, please?
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I wonder if there are any significant flavor changes in the V3 as well. Could be worth a try.
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The V3 are just EU and TPB compliant basically, nothing special or different about them.
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Can you explain why other flavors wouldn’t be TPD compliant?
(they do not fall under the TOBACCO Products Directive?)
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If they do a custard v3 DM me someone.
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According to my conversation with Capella they removed CMR1&2 and STOT1 on the V3s but I do not know why the others wouldn’t be but I would only assume they contain those compounds
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OK, I’m with you on EU regulations but food flavorings really aren’t in the scope of the TPD.
If I understand you correctly, CMR means Carcinogenic, Mutagenic or Toxic for reproduction but what is STOT1?
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Specific target organ toxicity it i think. I assume the 1 means category 1
http://hcis.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/UserGuide
there is a table about halfway down the page (I dont know if the categories are different elsewhere)
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Reached out to Capella re my question (which is probably answered by the ethyl alcohol distillation of the essential oils but want to hear it from them) - stay tuned"
> Hi, I’ve been wondering about the following question and would really appreciate an answer:
> I’ve noticed a number of your citrus flavors (and perhaps others) have natural oils listed on the specifications/safety sheet documentation. For example Juicy Lemon lists LEMON OIL ARGENTINA - KERRY Cas# 8008-56-8 %5 - < 10. My question is are all the oils removed before the final product is finished (in other words are they just utilized to extract the aromas {which are water soluble} leaving the oil portion behind?
Thank you for reaching out to us. This is a great question!
I’ve added our Regulatory Specialist here to help assist with your inquiry and will receive a response soon.
In you have any further questions, please let us know.
Thanks,
Tanya
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Thanks very much!
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Vaping any oil causes oil deposits in the lung. The lungs do not clear out oils well. For sure, oil in the lungs cause fatty pneumonia that are almost impossible to treat and there is no way to get the oils back out of the lungs. This is well documented in thousands of medical journal articles. Please be smart about vaping, it would be sad to loose the option of not smoking because of ignorance.
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Unfortunately the ones at risk generally don’t join forums.
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Here is the answer from Capella I received today:
*Hi *
Here is the answer I received regarding your question:
It depends:
For citrus flavors where higher levels of oils are seen, the physical oil soluble portions of the oils are removed as extracts are used to make the products water soluble.
For other flavors with very small amounts of oils: sometimes the oils are used to topnote or round out flavors – these oils will be used as oils – they will be dispersible in propylene glycol or ethyl alcohol at lower levels (usually at less than 0.1%).
If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate to ask.
Thanks,
Regulatory Capella Flavors
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