Guess I picked a good day to ask! Thanks again
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No problem James, but you have to pay it forward, once you get them in, testām and post your thoughts !!!
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Time for me to share acouple of my WIPās. I must say that results have been mixed.
Rice Crispy - Dirty Sockā¦
This was an expirment gone very badā¦Iām guessing that Joy DESTROYED the mixā¦I couldnāt even vape beyond 2mls of a 15ml mix. This is the first mix down the drain in 14 months. I have waiting a single flavor mix steeping at the moment. I do find it odd the Rice Crispy RF SC did NOT play nice at all. Iāll own the mistake, but odd for sure. Steeped 4 weeks
Rice Crispy RF SC 2.5%
Toasted Marshmallow TPA 1
Fresh Cream FA 0.25%
Joy FA 0.5
Cookie FA 1strong text
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Next WIP.
Kiwi RF SC 3rd mix.
This still was kinda still flat (compared to another kiwi recipe I have been developing for 6months). Kiwi should be through the roof. Steeped 4 weeks. The Mallow was also muddled at the end of the vape. Mallow and cream are used to shave the edges found in Kiwi FA and Kiwi MF.
Kiwi RF SC 3% (yes, I upāed this from 2%)
Marshmallow FA 1.5
Fresh Cream FA 0.5
Kiwi MF 1
Kiwi FA 1
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Watermelon MyWay
This is mix number 3 (number 4 is currently steeping). Yesā¦I know odd choicesā¦But the red that I am going for still falls a little flat. Steeped 4 weeks
Watermelon RF SC 2.5%
Watermelon FA 1%
Cucumber FA 1%
Fresh Cream 0.3%
Marshmallow FA 1%
Dragon Fruit TPA 1%
Strawberry FA 0.5%
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Nice remarks on those recipes, if you ever do get that ripe juicy red watermelonā¦ I would love to see the recipe. Iād also like something on the order of a taste I was getting from (bear with me here) a watermelon cough drop (I was using Haleās watermelon cough drops when I had a sore throat this winterā¦ they tasted great)
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Thank you, EVERYONE, for the feedback. Trust me I do read these and am always looking at what we can do better. Give it to me straight, and I promise to take notes. Donāt hold back haha
PSā¦ wth is Joy from FA anyways? Never understood that but also never looked into it.
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some say it like a funnel cake , its supposed to help cakes and muffins so like .25 jay FA with 1 pct BB muffin the joy plays a yeast type role here , all i get is a stale beer taste just like it smells , others may have a different take what joy is supposed to be but thats for the most part how ive seen it used and used it myself. ( notes in elr powdered sugar , fruit enhancer , yeast , sweetener )
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Meringue SC 2.5% (4-30-17) ā 2 weeks of steeping to see if it could topple my current go to FA Meringue. This was a good meringue. Subtle, sweet, and delicious. Donāt think it has the same fullness or mouthfeel to FA, but still pretty good. Canāt comment on itās mixing ability yet, and most often is used as a mixer, and itās hard to get excited over meringue. At 2.5% it seems like it would fit the bill as a mixer. Nothing off putting, or off notes in this one, so a good meringue it is. Shooting a 8/10, maybe just because itās not up to FA meringue standards.
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@fidalgo_vapes hit it. Itās funnel cake or elephant ears. The goal was to pull more of the cereal bread notes out and twist the flavors alittle.
My thought process was that when eating a rice crispy treat you really only taste butter and marshmallow and grease. Think about. Close your eyes and dream of the best rice crispy treatā¦
Now think if you could replicate that last part of mouth feel and note which is what I wanted to twist out.
Overall I think I over did it. Personal mistake. But just very surprise it went so horribly wrong. Lol.
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Iāve not used it a ton, but it seems VERY dependent on WHAT you mix it with and EXTREMELY dependent on how MUCH you mix. Doughy, yeasty, beerāy, etc. Iāve only used it at very low %'s and itās seemed to boost what it was supposed to. You can tell however that this JOY, can absolutely bring NO JOY if used incorrectly LOLā¦
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@Pro_Vapes that mix is still holding steady - it is delicious i am tanking about 10ml of it a day - it may not last for another few weeks I will try and ration it. I mixed it again and have put it to sleep.
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Tested FA joy at 3% steeped it for over a year. It is a funnel cake flavor with fried cake and icing sugar notes. Unsteeped it can smell and taste yeasty, doughy, beer(y) lol
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is this what it took for you to get that taste in a mix at low percents steeped for 30days i still get the beer taste
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what mix is this ???
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I know you will disagree with me fidalgo but i believe you cannot judge a flavor for at least 4weeks better yet 8-12weeks, yes even fruits. The goal should always be the final product, what % is needed to get what you want and also have it stay that way. A perfect example is the RF SC Gauva i see you asking about. I see you used 2% not a bad starting point but then ye judged it after two weeks. My notes show 3% at 4weeks plus was just right could even go higher! The RF Gauva smells like paint thinner but with proper steep it becomes a perfect guava nectar
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it is your opinion , i may not have the same opinion , i always take everyone opinion into consideration , i tested the guava at 5 weeks not two , the reason being is i was hoping the floral / perfumey smell would be less but for me it wasnt , i only asked if it took that long for you to get that taste from the JOY thats it , no intention of debating your opinion ,
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Thatās a good point, I let mine go for 2 weeks as well, and I could have done 4 weeks on all of these testers, but I have soo many to get through, I chose to keep them at 2 weeks to keep my sanity.
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I was just wondering if @Walt_RealFlavors has ever given a rough guideline on steeping times for the concentrates. Iām sure he mentioned that he mixes too, although I could be wrong. Surely the developers would be able to shed some light on this steeping question. Iām also wondering about the blending/mixing process everyone is using. I know he said to avoid airing and obviously too much heat is a no no also. Usually I just shake the bejaysus out of mixes and put them away.
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