Real Flavors Super Concentrates Tasting Notes (Part 1)

I tend to agree with you here. All this extensive testing is leading to what? Yeah some of these are good and some are very good, some are unique and some are just terrible.

Kudos to @Walt_RealFlavors for being willing to participate in this thread and adjust some of these flavors to make them more vape friendly.

I’m rooted in reality and I know that no “1” vendor makes the best of every flavor available, so I hope that some of you don’t think that all you need is SC RF to be a successful mixer.

I do find some of these SCs are friendly with other flavors and some just don’t stand up in mixes… (the flavor fading issue). As I posted earlier, I’m about 50/50 with this SC line, so when calculating usage and cost, also calculate your cost for the duds you have. This will increase your cost for the ones you really like.

I kinda see where some of this hype is coming from. If most of your stash/experience is TPA, CAP or FW, I know you may be very impressed with these flavors… I know I’m impressed with some. This is just a little advice so that some of you don’t over invest in something that’s just okay.

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Holy crap, I tried to do it myself…but this thread is way too big!! Please, has anyone tried guava (sc)? I’m hoping it’s similar to sweet guava (cap)
Thanks in advance!!

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This here might be something that can happen when using just a little to much of the actual flavors it happens to.
By lowering them it might not be an issue anymore.
Guess it all boils down to finding the balance in the recipes made.

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I have to agree with your points in the main. I have only tested 10 different concentrates from the range so far, and although impressed with most of them. I think the name ‘Super Concentrates’ give people an expectation of what these could be or should be in there minds even before they have mixed with them, rightly or wrongly

Personally I would put these flavours on a par with Flavourart, Flavorah, Atmos Labs and Inawera in that the majority of flavours work at low percentages to produce a strong, robust finished flavour in most cases and Walt has produced a range of flavours single and one shots, that are different to what are currently available from most other suppliers.

I am only speaking from a personal note here, but I have been mixing for 5 years now, I have tried 500+ flavours from different manufacturers in that time (and tested every single one individually) and what I have discovered in that time. I find it much easier to mix a decent finished mix of flavours where the majority or all the flavours are from Capella, TPA or FW and mixed in the 8-15% range. FA, INW or RFSC all great as standalones . or using their creams, enhancers or tobaccoes and the occasional individual fruit flavour in general mixes. But to make a mix solely from these brands is so much more difficult than the likes of TPA and Capella that require higher %'s, but are easier to work with in a mix and whose single flavours don’t tend to dominate in a finished mix, like the stronger finished concentrates can and do, when mixed together. Making it harder to identify the individual flavours in a mix, because they are so powerful and that is the case in even there own multi flavoured one shot concentrates, I find,also.

I will buy these RF SC if a flavour interests me again, but in the main my expectations, it will be for a flavour that I would use as a standalone or is already a completed one shot type finished flavour and not so much as a mixer, the same as I do with FA and INW.

As I said just a personal view, but one that I have now come to, from my own personal experiences. over the years.

p.s. As a side note, I bought my RFSC flavours expecting similar type flavours and an extraction process equivalent to, or the same as Medicine Flower. It became quickly apparent though this was not the case, once I had sampled a couple of them. But here in the UK these RF flavours are priced at £1.99 compared to £2.50 for INW £2.99 for Favorah and £3.20 for Flavourart so are very competitively priced against these 3 manufacturers and should do well hopefully, based on the price point and the quality of the finished product.

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Your insights are very wise. Ever since I made my larger purchases I started to feel nervous about investing this much in one company, then realized I have just as many flavors from other companies. the only difference is, I hadn’t bought all of them all at once direct from the manufacturer.

RF isn’t the only manufacturer that I could rave about when I find a great stand alone flavor, it’s just that it’s newer and there aren’t a lot of other reviews or notes about it. All the other ones I love as singles, I bought because so many other people have said they’re great as singles and they are. I still tweak some of them a little but if they weren’t great alone I wouldn’t bother and would only use them in more complex recipes.

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Testing that today…

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caps sweet guava is my favorite guava and the RF guava is more like FA guava @2pct this may also be a bit too high so until ive tried it at a much lower percntage i wont be able to give a 100pct honest opinion

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I agree, and I’m not expecting anything either. I’ve read quite a few posts regarding this. I’ve read posts confused by the fervor over these RF SC flavors as well.

I can’t speak for anyone other than myself. I’m just doing a shit load of tedious, mundane testing, that’s it. New flavors (to me), and figured no other way to find out what’s great, and what sucks, than by doing tests, one flavor at a time. Found quite a few heros thus far, and some zeros as well (IMO). Haven’t started mixing them up yet, as I don’t even know what they’re all like yet (no, I’m not going to buy every one hehe) to do so.

Fading issues, single flavor/mixing flavor, overrated, underrated, I’m good to go just checking them out. We all can agree, it SUCKS to waste our hard earned money. NO one wants to have a basket of flavs, that are never used. I have plenty of those from the other big flavor houses already, so if I add a few more to the “Yeah, right, like I’m EVER going to use THAT flavor ever again…” list, then so be it.

Thus far, only having ramped through about 45% of the flavors I’ve purchased from RF, I’m leaning towards 20% super good, 50% ehhh, right in the middle, and 30% nope, not for me. Pretty typical I guess.

JUST loaded the Guava into the RDTA and so far, liking it. I will continue with the MUNDANE testing. No silver bullets, no magical flavors here, but some are pretty damned good.

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I haven’t tried CAP sweet guava to give you a comparison but I can tell you the RF guava is super strong.

Based off khor7’s recipe of POG I tried to recreate the mix with and added twist of menthol and extreme ice to fit my flavor profile. The guava was so strong that it overpowered the pineapple, passion fruit, orange, Menthol, extreme ice, hell it overpowered a 2000 square foot house. And that was just from letting it vent off the alcohol, not vaping it. Vaping it, all I can taste or smell is the gauva.

In my mix I’ve dropped it down to .5 % and may drop it lower in another test batch.

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Guava SC 2.5% (4-30-17) – After 2 weeks of waiting to try this one proved to be worth the wait. Although I don’t vape many fruit flavors, this one was really good. Testing it as a single flavor didn’t find it overpowering @ 2.5%, but it was strong, full, and tasty. I think @fidalgo_vapes or @Fozzy71 compared it to a nice Guava drink you might get at a Mexican store/rest. and that about nails it. Very good, accurate, and tasty !!! 9/10.

Haven’t tried mixing ANY of the RF SC’s so I can’t comment on the strength in that regard, but as a stand alone, pretty damned nice @ 2.5%.

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Not me my friend @ 2 pct its too floral/ perfumey imo for me it taste like it smells i have to try to take it down a bit

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Pumpkin Pie SC 2.5% (4-30-17) – After 2 weeks was looking forward to this as I love PP. This was a strange one for me. Sometimes when testing you immediately get first impression that sticks, and it did here. My first reaction was thin. Fresh cotton, coils, saturated wicks, check check check. It just seemed really thin, not weak per se, but a thin feeling/tasting mix. It smelled more like PP than it tasted. Some spices, maybe a hint of pumkin, but no real creamy, thick pie, and not sure on the crust. Higher % help ?? Not sure. As it stands as a single flavor @ 2.5% as a PP, I’m forced to go with a 3/10.

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my tester was at 3pct and had same experiance so if this one was called pumpkin id be ok with it , but its a pie so give me the pie lol , this one i probably wont try to mix with im gonna make it at 1 pct and 5% to see if anything changes

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Thanks fidalgo. No one needs to think/taste the same, BUT, it’s nice to have some validation to make sure my taste buds aren’t screwed LOL.

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Butter Toffee SC 2.5% (4-30-17) – 2 week+ steep and this one smelled very good. DISCLAIMER !!!I have been spoiled thanks to @alisa and her wicked Flavor West ways i.e. Butter Pecan so ths BT has a lot to live up to. The smell was spot on, the vape, not so much so. Not bad, but the total of the smell didn’t translate to the vape. Very nice overall blending with a buttery, sweet overall with maybe a hint of toffee. Hard to verbalize, but if it vaped like it smelled, it’d be a 10/10. Would have preferred more toffee in the mix, and it has great potential as a mixer/base. As a standalone @ 2.5% will leave it @ 6.5/10.

Rice Pudding on deck

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although taste is subjective , i think a lot of us taste things the same or close at least …

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@SessionDrummer @fidalgo_vapes @TheTinMan1
Thank you very much! Will be making my first order of RF soon!

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You’re welcome James, hope my ramblings help out. :slight_smile:

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Rice Pudding SC 2.5% (4-30-17) – 2 weeks steeping and ready to roll. As others have mentioned it’s not as strong of a flavor as others, but overall very tasty. I don’t know HOW in the hell you’d make a flavor taste like rice, and I didn’t get much of it in this mix. It was almost like a lighter, sweet milky pudding but without the rice. Very good mix as a whole, nothing overpowering, sweetness good, and even mix, just missing some rice. Giving this one a 7.5/10.

Lemon Cookie on deck

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Lemon Cookie SC 2.5% (4-30-17) – After 2 weeks this one resolved to be a DELICIOUSLY light lemon cookie. Don’t get the buttery taste you’d expect in a sugar cookie, but a light lemon cookie. Light doesn’t mean it isn’t a nice and full vape, because it is, just not a in your face cookie, but a very good one. Lemon is very good and in the front with a tart sweetness, and it’s followed up by delicious cookie on the exhale. I think I’ve grown accustomed to one of my fav’s, Dinner Lady Lemon Tart, which is a much heavier mix, this is more subtle, and surprisingly good at it. 9.5/10.

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