The lion face does not say cartoon to anyone except maybe you. Minions ARE cartoons and the designers of the atty designed it to look like a cartoon character. You need to let this go Leilani, you’re not going to change anyone’s opinion about this atty. Just do what you want to do, buy it or don’t and move on. You’re fighting a battle that no one else is participating in
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Noted @Saxonn - As an independent Illustrator & Art Professor I just wanted some clarity on where consumers stood on the matter of what constitutes as child friendly illustrations. This is a discussion we would have frequently in advertising & graphic design courses (which includes characters, designs, illustrations, patterns, colors & typography) in concerns with “target audiences”.
As far as changing opinions - I’ll note I haven’t changed yours, but not everyone.
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Ok … here’s the deal. I didn’t want to comment on this post. But I did because I got tired of seeing your arguing with everyone and polluting this post with your page and a half long arguments about how you’re right and everyone else is wrong. I didn’t want to comment on any of your posts, and will not in the future. IT DOESNT MATTER LEILANI . What difference does it make if anyone likes this cartoon atty or not? It has no effect on you or your choices whatsoever. Whatever that other forum is that you belong to, go argue with those folks. You can be Queen Vape there. Ok? I’m done here and as soon as I send this I will block this thread so it will no longer appear in my feed. So feel free to fight this battle that no one else is fighting.
And no one care if you’re an Art Proffesor or not. See it doesn’t matter.
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I never said anyone was wrong and that I was right. I just posed some questions for clarification purposes. It appears by the statements made, that a few people care about a cartoon styled/illustrated atty being on the market in concerns with vaping market today, including yourself.
I never saw this as a battle BTW. Just an open conversation where individuals voiced their opinions. Whether you want to make it a “battle” and engage in that way is totally up to you.
Thanks for your commentary and have a great day.
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Yikes. In other news here is a rap … I think it’s rap? not sure… lol
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I am a sucker for a banana shaped Allen key…
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@TheTinMan1 No we don’t. With a lot of the juices out there with candy/fruity/cereal flavors, are we in more danger with them too ???
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@SessionDrummer Until a 2 year old eats it.
I ducked out of the other thread because it was disrespectful to @andycolins since @jojo split it I feel I can weigh in again.
@Leilani avatars, images etc have nothing to do with what I am saying I am not talking about marketing to kids in the slightest
As @VapeyMama said this is an item that can seriously injure a child - sure it is made for adults and targeted at adults but it is dangerous and attractive to kids.
Minion spinning top - kids toy.
Ample pixy rdta - not a kids toy and dangerous to kids
You are telling me this is fine?
I am a Professor of Fuck All but even my feeble mind can see that this is not in the best interests of anyone.
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The difference between education and common sense are a million miles apart.
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I don’t think the flavoring is nearly as bad as the way the product is presented. Making a juice bottle look like a lifesavers candy wrapper is irresponsible in my opinion.
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I’d never seen any devices like that ^^^^. Don’t see why they would have to do that.
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Here in NJ they tried passing an amendment banning fruit, bakery, and candy flavored vape juices for that very reason, they appealed to children
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I never said it was fine. I noted that in my previous comments. I am posing the question as where will the FDA draw the line as “child appealing” or “child friendly” marketing as well. I will refer to my previous statements above. Is the Solomon RTA illustration okay? Would a child look at that and assume it is for adults as well, and not for them? This area concerns me because I find a lot of the merchandise: mods, atty’s, e-liquid, and accessories tip the scale.
Child friendly does not just refer to “kids” but anyone under 18 years of age in concerns to the FDA. Would these items below be considered “child appealing”? Could you see children referring to them as “cool” or “awesome” in any way? Would children be tempted to pick them up at all if an adult was not in their presence?
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does it really matter what any of us actually think ??? ive always thought people pick and choose what is child like or not in the best interest for vaping , because thats actually what the concern is people and the fda already are going to attack vaping because of the silly names we and the manufacturers come up with , so what is ok the name unicorn in a product is that ok ? if we are really going to get caught up over images of one item we should be making a fuss over anything that can appeal to a child and i mean anything and everything names , images , etc i personally dont care either way the damage has been done already it shouldnt get personal though not amongst ourselves anyway , someones opinion doesnt make it wrong or right , my daughter is almost 5 and gave me a sticker ( a troll ) to put on one of my mods so i did is that wrong ??? if people enjoy cartoon figures for attys so be it ive seen juice boxes and other kid related things since the day ive started vaping the fuel was added long ago
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I am not going to bother as it is like trying to explain particle physics to a crayon.
You bought all the other items up I am talking about one that you said was cool and was posted on this site by various vendors. Many of those items are in the same boat and I do not agree with them either.
Discus it with yourself as there is no point in trying to explain. You are right everyone else is wrong.
I am out.
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and to add the other day a " my first vape " advertisement was posted here by someone who seem to think is a funny guy and not one person flipped him any shit and thought that was irresponsible why is that ???
http://forum.e-liquid-recipes.com/t/i-found-this/157812?source_topic_id=158671now this is a bit much but all i see is likes , shouldnt it be flagged as passionate of an issue that this seems to be
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i cant tell you how much i respect this ( thats you dont pick and choose )
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Several things to point out
-The post you linked is in the underground and not availble by google search or viewable by basic membership here.
-The post was a joke by a known troll.
-The post was not from a pretentious professor of art.
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but its her opinion if she likes it or anyone likes it why should that bother anyone or why should anyone be upset
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Exactly. I think we can poke fun at ourselves and there’s nothing wrong with that.
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