Setting Temp Control - Write Up

I’d only go as far as I normally would when building the coils, as said in the post, Titanium Oxide is not produced till upwards of 600F. So, if you do want to dry burn your existing Ti coil, I would only do about 1-2 pulses on about 10w for 1-2 secs, keep it mind, when Ti is not regulated it heats up quickly. You only need enough heat to break the bond between the gunk and the coil, so when you see people glowing their coils all over Youtube, I :worried:.

The rest of the gunk you can get off with a soft toothbrush and some distilled water.

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No, all TC mods do not allow for the use of both wires. The newer YIHI chips do and all the new DNA chips as well. DNA40 will, the X Cube II will, and the chipsets in the new IPV4S and IPVD2 will. If you find one you like, just look up the manufactures website and read away :smile:.

Not too sure about the Ni200, all I know is I get a funky taste, no matter how I tried to use it. So I stay away. If you want a sample, I’ll be happy to put 20ft of this unused 200ft I will never use in a envelope and send it to you. :thumbsup:

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From what i’m reading I don’t think I even want to try it, thank you so much for offering to let me try before I buy but I will stick with my kanthal and I guess titanium. I really want the X Cube II so if it will work with TI that’s probably what I will go with. It’s about harm reduction for me so if I can avoid any more harm I’m up for it from what everyone says it taste funny anyway. People say thats the nickel leeching into the vapor Thanks for your help @ryan8five0

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Thanks Ryan

For non-TC, stainless steel wire is also excellent :slight_smile:

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Very good read. I’ve been using the .50 mm for a few months. I initially used contact coils in non tc mode. I found this didn’t work with tc. My range is below .10 for flavor and vapor that I like.

I think this is more of a preference. I’m usually vaping between 500-600 degrees.

This true when using a device setup for Ti use. But most TC mods will read Ti. The draw back is it heats them as if it’s Ni200. So you have to set the temp lower for a comfortable vape. I used Ti before TC mods came out with with the Ti option and I had to lower the temp because the vape was too hot. I used it somewhere between 300-450 degrees.

Also on some TC devices you still need to set the wattage for the appropriate temp… as to not under power or over power your temp setting. There is a parallel between wattage and temp on some TC mods.

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I created a section this morning with a play by play of exactly how I set everything when I sit down and do a build. You should read that and let me know what you think!

I introduced the setting the wick part because of everything I have found about TC, setting the wick is by far the least talked about subject amongst it. Yet it is the MOST, MOST, MOST important part of the TC process, other than syncing the resistance.

Also forgot to say @Pro_Vapes I vape on mainly IPV4’s and they all have the coefficient for Ti programmed into the TC setting. These settings are only based off of a TC mod that CAN have a setting to set Ti and not just Ni! Although, the process should be the same for any TC mod and any wire no matter what.

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Let me know what you think about the step by step process I wrote up this morning!

I like it! Good guide. A couple of points:

There are many titanium grades, not just 1 and 2 - I have grade 1 but I also have an alloy (I can’t even figure out what grade it is), which also works beautifully.

TiO2 isn’t as harmful (or harmful at all?), as some would have us think… I know @Pro_Vapes feels this is important :smile:

As @Pro_Vapes I think the temperature is a matter of preference - I am currently vaping at 275o C (527o F)…

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First off, thank you.

There are several grades available in any gauge. They sell any gauge on etsy, I get most of mine from there and the 25g off eBay. I have only used grade 1 and 2 so I can’t comment on the rest. I haven’t seen much info on the others either. Maybe you have?

The oxide is not as harmful as we presumed, you’re right. The daily exposure is somewhere around 15mg if I am correct. How one could measure that off of vaping I am not sure nor qualified to say lol. I still believe that one should limit their exposure to it, especially if it is a variable we can control to the extent we can now with TC.

Vaping itself is all a matter of preference, cheers :beers:.

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I saw your post and ordered 28g and 22g. The arrived today.

@Pro_Vapes I meant to ask you, with the IPV4S/IPV3 Li how low can you set the coefficient? Can you actually use TC with stainless steel wire? 0.00094 is pretty low compared to nickel’s 0.006

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I’ve said this in several post scattered throughout this forum. TC has only become popular here in last 2 or 3 weeks. All info is welcome and thanks for your post.

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I agree I’ll listen to ANY SUGGESTIONS where temp control is discussed so I can have the best setup when making my titanium coils on rba base.
Please elaborate in anyway ya can thanks.

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It’s not done like Cube 2… You set the resistance and the chip does the rest. When I noticed it read the SS I set the resistance just like Ni200. I was able to operate it just like normal. I’m certain that the temp settings weren’t accurate… Kinda like with Ti… but it worked fine. I noticed that it doesn’t work on my TC mods though.

Titanium builds up titanium DIoxide, not titanium oxide. TiO2 is NOT dangerous, and you’re never going to get it all cleaned off a coil. It’s sticky and not soluble in water or alcohol. There are two reasons not to let too much build up on coils, but neither of them are safety related. One is that it will reduce the efficiency of the coil, and the second is that any TiO2 that is created represents titanium that is no longer part of the coil, so the coil will wear out that much sooner. TiO2 is nearly inert. It doesn’t easily change into anything else or combine easily with anything else. And it’s not a poison; it’s GRAS and used in a lot of foods. (It’s often used to make food colors opaque, so it’s in the candy coating on M&Ms.)

Ni200, OTOH, forms NiO (nickel oxide) which is a poisonous gas. Titanium is about the safest wire you could use for vaping.

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Not entirely correct. Titanium oxide (Ti2O3) is what always covers titanium. It protects the Ti from corrosion. If you break the titanium oxide layer the it will be regenerated spontaneously in air (and fairly quickly). The oxide layer is also what can appear to give different colors to titanium wire (there isn’t any color, the effect is the same as with soap bubbles).
Titanium dioxide (TiO2) can form on top of the oxide layer.

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Good points from both… bottom line is it’s not going to harm you… especially the amount produced from vaping.

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Well, the 2 metals chemists I work with who have master’s degrees in the subject disagree with you. Unless you’re also an expert in metals chemistry, I’ll go with their answer.

From what I understand, what I wrote correct, and in fact pretty basic. If they disagree with that, I wouldn’t put much faith in their “master’s degree”. But again, I am not a metallurgist. :wink:

EDIT: 60 seconds of googling again, lets me know I’m at least partially wrong - The oxide layer that always convers Ti is at least part TiO2 if not predominantly so :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: There shouldn’t be anything wrong with the rest of my statement :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Anyway, as Pro_Vapes wrote:

:smiley:

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