I think we’re cut from the same chunk of wood, Max…lol. What notes I do keep, are pretty skimpy, and occasional.
My favorite flavors are Alittleofdis, and Alittleofdat.
Even though it’s technically a single flavor, a good tobacco flavor has a number of things going on. Some up front, and some in the background. Like Jim said, once you find a sweet spot for a good, single flavor tobacco, the options really open up.
I guess one of the things that surprises me the most, is even with my haphazard mixing style, I very rarely get a mix that isn’t good enough to keep in my tank all day. When I started DIY, I expected my failure rate to be much higher.
I love to vape stand alone Juices…That’s what I have been doing since Sept 2015…It is also teaching me the ins and outs of how they taste, so as to give me insight into how they will blend in recipes later down the line, which I am just now venturing into…along with a few multiflavor recipes I got from here…and a couple of my own concoctions I am tweaking…
Some of my StandAlone flavors include, but not limited to are FA Forest Fruit,… Inawera Strawberry Shisha…Flavorah Wild Melon, Grape, Thai Chai, Boysenberry, Watermelon…Flavor Concentrates brand, Blueberry, Orange, Rootbeer, and more…Capella Sweet Tangerine, Cucumber, Vanilla Custard,MF Watermelon (THE absolute best StandAlone Vape I have ever had), Honeydew…The list goes on…I mix them at Higher flavor %s for MTL hitting and really enjoy bold flavor…StandAlones are great “go to” vapes while waiting for other juice recipes to steep…
I mixed them all at starting percentages of 20%…The Blueberry was particularly good, actually…These flavors do not have high floral (volatiles)…I mix at 40/60 PG/VG and steep these 10 days…For being a rather obscure Flavor distributor, these flavors do have a nice “after mixing” shelf life, meaning they do not change significantly after aging for some time…The Lemon is kinda nice in that it has a tartness, but not an extreme “throat cutting” effect, which is typical of many citrus flavors…Rootbeer is fun, but 20% is a bit much…however it does taste like rootbeer pop…of course not bubbly…but I am gonna play with some champagne with that one…Cherry is a blender, but not cough syrupy…works nice with the pineapple…which again, doesn’t have that volatile “bite” to it…Actually I was pleasantly surprised with these flavors…and the thing that is really cool is that they do not go “out of whack” and become nasty at too high of a concentration…the flavor just becomes more intense, but doesn’t get “chemical”…Then it just becomes a matter of figuring out flavor %s through testing…and remember I tend to mix at higher flavor %s for MTL…and mix for Clearomizer vaping, as well…Goblin Mini…Kayfun Mini V3 Bootleg…But things may change a bit after I put my Authentic Boreas and Bootleg Aromamizer RDTA mini into the mix…when they arrive…I got the 16 pack and still have a lot of playing around to do with these, and I would love to keep you posted, if you want…and would love to hear your assessments too…
Looks like @Pro_Vapes posted my taste note on the Medicine Flower Watermelon…Actually HE is who I blame for getting involved with MF flavors AKA Lotus Flavors at ECigExpress…from his taste review on that site…Actually it was on a Lark that I checked these flavors out…But Oh My Gawd…UnfuckingBelievable natural, authentic, bold Watermelon…down to the rind…Inhale and exhale experience with this (rind and red of watermelon) is like biting into a watermelon…full bore…and you know how it melts in your mouth and then the flavor kinda fades away as the melon melts in your mouth…The vape is damn near like that…A most visceral experience… In my MTL style, the rind hits first, then on a good inhale the sweet melon shows up, blossoming into a wonderful exhale of sweet…As my tank (Goblin Mini) warms up during a session, the sweetness starts to become more pronounced and the rind, though still there, begins to fade into the sunset…" Billy, don’t splash your sister in the pool"…This is a 4th of July experience…Suprisingly…I initially vaped this in an Aspire Clearomizer and it was good…so decided to fill the Goblin Mini…I can’t say enough about this Watermelon…Just mixed some up tonite… I hope that helps Edit:…One of the most amazing things about this MF flavor is that its’ essence lingers in your nose, throat, and you can smell it for about an hour or so AFTER your vaping session…That’s pretty special… MUST steep minimum 3 weeks…NO HEAT…in my experience…
Thanks for the notes. I got these back in January and I’ve only tested the 3 large bottles that was sent to me. I haven’t tested any from the 16 pack.The flavors I tested were very good, but a little weak (percentage wise). I’ll dig into them and make some notes also. Thanks again.
@MaxUT…I mix 40/60 PG/VG and started out with a 2% flavor…for MTL…There are others who use this in the neighborhood of 1% or less, but we also share differences in equipment and vaping style, so I cannot speak to their experience…but for me, the 2% was delightful…Also may depend on her devices…My Goblin Mini, I build a 2.4mm Kanthal 8 wrap coil (touching) tight wound and wick it with Cotton Bacon version 2…I vape at anywhere between 12 and 18 watts and get a variety of sensations…So what kind of equipment is she vaping on?..Your typical PG/VG ratios?..In my experience, these MUST steep a minimum of 3 weeks…NO HEAT
It’s all good, man, and you are correct, does require higher %s, but some surprisingly clean taste, and pretty straight forward…I want to make a multi-fruit slush vape which I believe these will lend themselves to very nicely…
FA, she’s vaping a Nautilus Mini with 1.8 ohm coil on an iStick TC40 box, at about 15 watts. She typically uses 50/50 blends. Also, she only just recently quit cigarettes.
If it were me…and from what I know about this MF Watermelon…based on your reply here…and given her specs, I would not hesitate to mix one at 2.5% 50/50 and one at 3% 40/60 PG/VG…I think a little more VG would enhance the “airy” nature of the vape…More PG tends to put the flavor into what I call a “focused” more “singularly dimensional” state…VG tends to help “blossom” flavor, at the cost of flavor intensity…and throat hit…especially in low power, small coil/wick surface area scenarios…Not sure what she smoked cigarette wise…Some of my friends say I am crazy with those %s…but right now, she is looking for flavor…and throat hit, I would guess…If the flavor is too intense…you can always drop some measured VG or PG/VG into the mix to dilute its’ intensity…I also vape at lower wattage than many here on the forum do, so they are able to achieve their desired flavor levels with lower flavor %s…I do not sub-ohm or drip at higher power levels, and being a recovering pot head/alcoholic…I steer clear of direct to lung hits (done punched my ticket on the bong)…plus I prefer the MTL hit, at this time, and it is also closer to the style of cigarette smoking…So… I am a flavor chaser, and what I have found early on, about vaping is this…Good flavor is what kept me vaping …and OFF the cigarettes…Many get discouraged with less than adequate flavor, then wind up back on the smokes…I originally started mixing 70/30 PG/VG…and have evolved a little along the way…Steep these MF finished juices for minimum of 3 weeks…NO HEAT…and I store those MF AKA Lotus (at ECigExpress) flavor concentrates in the refrigerator…And remember this…when you put your numbers into your mixing program MF flavors are NOT PG or VG based…
How many coils you people go threw? It just sucks swapping flavores from coil to coil. Even though I buy my coils threw Ebay they still costly. I have 3 smok tfv4 tanks and 2 kangertech tanks which I vape at .2 ohm. I find myself holding back on making flavores because there is only so much I can vape
I use a fused clapton SS coil with no wicking for testing single flavors.No break in time to get rid of the cotton taste.After the flavor test simply dry burn your coil , wash with water , fire until dry and go to the next flavor.
Of course I use a rda , not sure of a good way to use a tank.
@Code-Vape…I hear that and understand…First, let me direct you to ECigExpress…They sell 5 ml bottles of the MF flavor that is labelled as Lotus Flavor for $9.99 ea. …sometimes on sale for $7.99…so you can at least get into the experience of the flavor for fairly cheap albeit only 5 ml…However…if you do the math given the lower percentages of flavoring used for an outstanding experience, you will find that you can make just as much MF juice, if not more, as you can with flavors that come from the other flavor companies…The value is absolutely worth the cost (for me) and Lotus Flavors at ECigExpress allow you to experience it at less than the $22.00 bottles sold at Medicine Flower or elsewhere…You know you want to…
Thanks to @CallMeTut for starting this thread. As a newb this has been super informative …downright exciting. I blame Wayne @Wayne_Walker [ENYAWREKLAW] for convincing me how much money I was gonna save DIY [multiple wink emojis] Ahh it’s still true, once you start sub ohming and dripping and using a dual-coil RTA …I dunno, the stuff is maybe just evaporating …ok ok it’s going through my lungs first, but [deep breath] Now I have to add MF to my ever growing list (+Inawera SHISHAs!) Thanks [sarcasm font] WAYNE! Admin? Is there a discount code at ECX for ELR peeps?