Smoker wanting to convert to vaping, need to choose a device

Isn’t there a thread/post somewhere on this forum where people talk about this Big Tobacco thing with a list of companies that are connected to Big Tobacco? They also mentioned which companies are not in connection with Big Tobacco. Maybe it’s time to open a new thread or post or whatever you call it and people just go and add the names they know of. No discussions or anything (however hard that might be . Take my post for example, I fully expected people to just name their choice among my list and I would be able to choose based on how many people chose a mod haha)

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This is completely and totally on you now :sunglasses: I’m just kidding with you , Like Jay said, I’m taking the plunge

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Thank you so much, each and every one of you for the excellent advice (and extra homework I have to do hehe) I really appreciate it a lot. I got so much more than I bargained for with you lot, it’s awesome

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Get some spare HW1 coils they are fine and work in temperature control. Ask me if you need help with the Pico.

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@MandiPeanut, whatever you decide, stick with it (the goal to quit the stinkies) , it is a long learning curve for some or most, might want to find, research the pod systems, something easy and forgiving to use. Than jump into the boxmods, and rebuildables. I only had 2 choices when I decided to quit, smoking. That was blu ecigs, than I moved to ego’s, than kayfuns, etc. etc. The sky is the limit !!! I still have some blu ecigs and cartridges
and ego’s, but I’m saving them for the smithsonian institute. For sure onething, you got to have the willpower and mindset and pick your friends wisely. goodluck !!!

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Totally agree on posting about who in the Vaping Industry is connected with Big Tobacco.
Big Tobacco I’m sure sees the threat of completion of the Vaping Industry, and would do anything to get their dirty little fingers in it. Then do their dirty little tricks.

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I have been through aquite a few mods, tanks rebuildables. I still have a go to tank and rda for home but those pod devices are pretty convenient for out and about vaping. I wish I would have had one to start but they are more about nicotine delivery than flavor. But some pretty bold flavors with high nic salts makes them pretty nifty. They don’t take up too much space in the pocket either. I got myself an infinix and rather enjoy it! There are tons of different kinds out there and they are cheap.

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That could also work. Especially when I’m at work. People at work really gets on my last nerve and ofc I jump for a nicotine fix to keep my cool. I’ll take a look at the infinix :thinking:

Thank you for your input

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Hey guys, me again :roll_eyes: I promise I’ll leave you guys alone soon!

Okay, I’m looking at batteries (18650, obviously). Now, the information given on Eleaf’s website for the Pico 25 is “high-rate 18650 battery (Continuous discharge current should be above 25A)” when I search for batteries, usually they are labeled as high drain, I’m guessing it means/just a different way of saying that the batteries are high-rate?

Second thing that worries my paranoid mind a little bit is that I asked for suggestions which batteries to buy (brand, etc) and I got this reply: “the batteries we always suggest is the Samsung 18650 30Q (pink) battery” I checked them out and the continuous discharge current is only 20A.

Should I be looking at other batteries that are specifically above 25A or can I just buy the suggested batteries and be done with it?

I think the Sony Konian 18650 are a safe bet. I’m not a specialist but I hear good things about sony batteries.

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Because a device is capable of reaching higher power (50-75w+), the manufacturer will typically recommend a battery that is capable of sustaining what the device can generate.

The key is, knowing how you are going to use the device. If you know you are not going to use it above 35w, then a 30Q is perfectly fine. However bear in mind, that this also requires basic knowledge (application of such) as well as due diligence in checking the mod each and every time before you go to use it, to make sure that you didn’t inadvertently bump/press the power buttons (while in your pocket, or holding it and not realizing that it wasn’t locked, etc ) and ended up raising the power to the max setting without realizing it.

If it were me, I would just keep it simple, and spend the little bit of difference, and buy the best highest rating battery you can find (Samsung 25r5, Sony VTC-5A, etc) which have a CDR (constant discharge rating) of 25A or 30A.
-Google ‘battery Mooch’ for respected and qualified options.

This way, at least you know you’ll be safe while you develop those Best Practice principles. (Consider it a ‘fail-safe’ as you are learning, and wrapping your head around all that’s involved with vaping in general.)

Also, it’s a good idea to lock your device (or shut it off completely) when not in frequent use. When you know you need to set it down and walk into another room (and other people are present.) Or, when you are going to put it into your pocket/purse for instance… Buttons have a natural way of ending up getting pressed without you realizing it, due to natural body movement, and the constraints of clothing, or items in your purse pressing against it.

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Thanks Spark, I’ll follow your advice, And again, thank you for the detailed explanation

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There are still a few different types in this series, e.g. VTC4, VTC5, VTC6 etc. Only the VTC5A is rated at 25A CDR afaik.
A lot of local vendors don’t know much about batteries and even rate VTC6 at 30A CDR :scream: You can find higher rated CDR batteries but you’ll be paying with your mah’s (i.e. much shorter time between recharges)

If in doubt, always check Mooch’s blog pages on e-cigarette-forum.com

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I use lg hg2. Others are probably fine.
At 40w we are talking 10A continuous, and it should really be called peak unless you are vaping really really hard. At which point you should get a multi battery mod.

Temp control also helps with avoiding over powering the coil.

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~14A actually.
40W / 3.2V / 0.9 = 13.8888…

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Here is my personal journey
Ego pen : 18mg nic worked for a couple weeks but noticed i puffed too much and got a nic buzz
LOTS OF RESEARCH!
Internal battery mods (eleaf 20 and cuboid mini): 12mg nic LOVED my cuboid mini. No external battery charging, simple device. Wasnt ready to take the leep to charging batteries and buying batteries separately.
LOTS OF RESEARCH!
External battery mods: 4mg nic Realized i liked airy draws and chain vaping.
:dash::dash::dash:
I am excited for you to continue your vaping journey! If you take anything away from my rambling, reasearch everything! A lot of hours went into my journey and it started and continues with research. This site was and is very helpful. Type in anything in the search bar and you will find something that will help.
Vape on!!

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Thank you for sharing, this site and the people are so awesome. I’ve been reading the discussions for some time before before I posted my own, and I’m am just so happy I found this place :love_you_gesture: it’s going to be tough to leave the cigarettes, lucky that I’m so stubborn, I will get through it. The good luck wishes and enthusiasm I’ve received from everyone will make it so much easier :smile:

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Battery safety … yet another reason why I prefer multi-battery mods, not just the power or extended battery life.

In my single battery Vaporesso Target Pro, I have to remember which batteries to throw while in my DNA 250 I really don’t care that much.
I usually vape around 60W, but sometimes I’ll push it to 75W:
75W / 3.2V / 0.9 (efficiency) / 3 (batteries) = 8.6A

On my Target Pro that would push the battery to 26A so even a VTC5A wouldn’t really be ideal.

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Aren’t li-ion cells 4.2v ?

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When calculating the max amps you always use the minimum voltage, or to be precise the cutoff value of the mod which is normally 3.2 volts.

Besides the 4.2V of the batteries are the resting voltage, as soon as you begin to draw amps from the battery the voltage will drop considerable, perhaps down to 3.7V, this is also know as the voltage sag.

Edit: Mooch explains it all better than I could in this video:

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