So, should we remove rates that have no comments?
- Yes
- No
- IDK/IDC
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Iāll start and say yes to that. I know it is a sensitive matter and that i might step on the toes of some people.
To me a rating with nothing else is kinda useless and it gives me absolutely nothing. Thats why i liked the fact that anyone rating from now on need to comment. And as a bonus it makes it easier to find the down rating trolls and the up rating people that do it to help a brother/sister out.
Keep up the good work bro 
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I went with yes even though Iāve rated some recipes without commenting. Most were already highly rated good recipes and had nothing to add, but I do remember a recipe that I gave a 1* to. It was plain stupid and I was probably in a pissy mood that day (and there are several recipes like this one):
While I expect there will be āShockwavesā felt all throughout āvapingdomāā¦ I think itās only the right thing to do.
IMHO, this has been long overdue, and I think the proās far outweigh the conās. Let the chips fall where they may.
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DO IT! 
You know you want to! 
Push the SHINY RED BUTTON! 
The HISTORY ERASER BUTTON! 
I can envision the tops of hater troll heads erupting and exploding like Mt. Saint Helens when it happens! 
IMO, leaving a comment, upon rating a recipe, should have been like that from the start. If you have the time to rate a recipeā¦ you should have the time to leave a comment on the recipe. 
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I guess I read this wrong and wish I could change it. From here forwardā¦ yes. Old ratingsā¦no. For example, I rated a couple 5 stars and did not comment because I had nothing else to add. I have never given a less than 5 star rating.
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Iām undecided on how I feel about having to leave a comment before rating. I see the benefits and the drawbacks. But since this is the way it is now, it seems logical that it be retroactive. It will be tough for those who genuinely rated to go back and leave comments and ratings, but I think the overall removal of āballot stuffingā ratings is worth it.
The only drawback is all my recipes that Iāve not commented on will now be unrated and Iāll have to dig through my spreadsheet to remember what I rated them and why. But, thatās my cross to bear, I suppose. 
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do the ratings that have 1-5 stars and 0 comments mess up the order by results when searching through the facilities on the site āsearch by stash , what can i makeā . yep im sure it does.
DO IT!!! _b
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I selected I donāt know, but I do care. Mainly because I do rate my own recipes. And very rarely rate or mix anyone elseās recipes. Like @JoJo I am not looking forward to losing my ratings I have assigned to my own Eliquids. I do understand the rationale behind this permanent change. And therefore will support the general consensus vote.
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Thereās ballot stuffing, mis-rating because of āmeaningā to hit the heart button for saving a recipe to favorites, and downgrading hater trolls ratings which would be reset to nilā¦ thatās worth it right there. 
Plus, it might be a good time for reflection on certain recipes youāve rated in the pastā¦
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I donāt much care, but it seems like a solid, if small, improvement.Maybe itāll even be bigger than I suspect. And Iām only commenting because voting without commenting would be kinda a similar issue now wouldnāt it? :P. I may not have much to say, but itās better said I suppose.
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Same here doesnāt bother me either way, but I too have rated w/o leaving a comment just due to the fact the comments section was already 5pages long lol. I can see this helping with one starring and ballot stuffing though!
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Yah, that would be rude so I better comment too 
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Have to agree!
Even although I post recipes that I rate myself but my reasoning for that is it helps me keep a track of how I view the juice.
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Assuming you mean as a standard from today onward, what would be the problem with it?
As for your recipes - I didnāt think about that initially and now that you mention it, I would NOT want to scrub ratings that have no comments, just future ones.
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I rate my own cuz I like it lol
Itās a reasonable request. The comments donāt have to be elaborate. Itās like if you go to any E-Juice vendor online and strum through the comment section. Some people just write āVery goodā, āI like this - true flavor profileā, āBad stuff - smells weirdā, etc. It opens up a dialog in your recipe thread.
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I vote an emphatic NO. See i even capitalized it for a more dramatic affect.
Unless we are going to remove all votes prior to the implementation of the comment ruleā¦ Id be willing to bet that many of the people who voted and didnt comment, or did for that matter, are no longer active on the site and have will have no idea of the need to re-rate the recipe they voted on.
Also, I have quite a few recipes that i personally rated with no comment, im still here and would most likely not rerate and comment on a mix that i rated a long time ago but no longer remember.
Now im not at all against blanking all ratings if we can come up with a better system than a simple comment to vote. Outside of changing the entire model of ELR i dont really see one.
The site cant even go down for 3 minutes without some people freaking out, imagine what kind of crap storm we would be hit with if all non comment votes were removed, id be willing to bet that non comment votes make up a large part of the vote system. If we are going to go that far we might as well blank out the entire system and see what happens.
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Hereās the rub.
We all like positive reviews of our recipes but without any comments it feels empty somehow?
Sure, itās a lovely feeling to feel that appreciation and I know for me, I appreciate the time and effort someone has invested in trying out my mix and actually like it or greater still, inspiring them to take the recipe forward and improving upon it.
I have always said I welcome all comments, good and bad, simply because it is the only indication we will receive from fellow mixers whose input we all appreciate and without them we would stagnate and fail to grow and learn in the art of mixing.
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